Live Group Coaching: Real Money Blocks, Real Breakthroughs

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Summary

Get a front-row seat to a live group coaching session where Jamie helps real entrepreneurs work through their biggest money and manifestation challenges. From “nothing is happening” phases to knowing when to let go of goals, this episode gives you the exact coaching tools to navigate your own blocks and create momentum.

Topics

  • navigating the “nothing is happening” phase after manifestation success 
  • balancing budgeting with manifestation mindset (without killing the magic) 
  • knowing when it’s time to let go of something you’ve been trying to manifest 
  • healing childhood money stories and creating safety around abundance 
  • separating facts from fear-based stories about money 
  • permission to change and evolve your goals 
  • creating your own aligned relationship with money

Featured Guests:

Patricia Böttger – manifestation coach Website: www.seelentalk.com Instagram: @patricias_seelentalk 

Kathleen Oswalt – My Race Tatts founder Website: myracetatts.com Instagram: @myracetatts

Monica Ingson – CertaPro Painters owner Facebook Business: CertaPro Painters of Annapolis Instagram: @certapropaintersofannapolis 

Lindsay Lybrand – massage therapist & bodyworker Business: The Remedy Room | Therapeutic Massage + Bodywork Instagram: @remedyroom.sc

 Hi, friend. Welcome back to the Money Manifestation and Business Podcast. Today’s episode is gonna be a little bit different because I am not just teaching or interviewing. I’m actually gonna be coaching live on the show, and you’re going to hear real questions from real entrepreneurs just like you about all things money, manifestation and growing a business with.

 

Alignment, and I’m gonna be coaching them through the blocks, breakthroughs, and the big shifts that help them move on and create momentum. So think of this as pulling up the chair to a group coaching session. You’re gonna hear questions that you might have your. Self. And the beautiful thing is that you can take the coaching and borrow any thoughts or perspectives or shifts and apply them to your own life and business.

 

So whether you’re manifesting your first client, you’re scaling past six figures, or simply ready for more ease and abundance. You are in the right place. So excited for you to tune into today’s coaching session, and I hope you enjoy it.

 

  📍 Patricia. Hi. Hi.

 

Yes, I have a question. Um, right now I’m in a phase where I feel like nothing is happening, but a few weeks ago for me it felt like I have made like a shift. So this is kind of weird for me. Okay. Because a few weeks ago I, um, manifested five people in a master class and I had five people and I was very excited.

 

Awesome. And a few weeks after, um, a long-term client, she doesn’t want to extend working with me, which is fine for me because she wasn’t the most aligned client for me. So I’m also focusing on attracting more aligned clients. Yeah. And yeah, right now nothing is happening. No bookings, nothing. And I have like two voices in my head.

 

It’s like the, the one voice from like, I think like my higher mind, which is like, oh, we can use this time because I have a. Planned, uh, launch in the end of July. So to focus on the launch, prepare for the launch, the product, et cetera. And then there’s the other voice, which is like, oh, but we need to pay our bills.

 

And when we have no clients, we don’t have money. And then there’s the other voice. Again, money can, can come from different sources and yeah. So maybe you have an advice for me because it makes me a little bit insecure. Yeah, totally. So what I like to do also, it’s kind of what I talked to. I love how you also are deciphering you.

 

Like there’s this wise voice inside and then there’s this more primitive, maybe younger voice inside and like, so sometimes I like to work with both of them together so that they’re not like competing with one another. So what I would do is I would separate, this is something that I kind of taught yesterday, was separating story versus facts.

 

So I would look at what is true, what is true in terms of your brain’s like, well, we need to make money, right? What is true? How much money would you need? Right? This is what I want you to ask yourself to pay your bills to get by. What do you actually need to survive? And that would be the circumstance.

 

Mm-hmm. And do you have that right now? Mm-hmm. Yeah. I mean, I’m like the, the July has started very well with the clients and right now it’s like kind of a dip. So I think I, I try to look for proof, as you said, to look for proof that it is working. And I am also like, um, uh, connecting or receiving new clients, which is also good to always attract new clients.

 

Well, here’s the question that I have right now. Mm-hmm. Right now, do you have enough money to get by in this moment today? Today? Yes. Today? Yes. Yes. Okay. Today? Yes. Okay. Okay. How much overflow do you have? Like how long could you get by? Mm, I think a week. Okay. Yeah. So what would be real then? Like if you were to state it in a way that was more true, not just what your brain is saying.

 

Your brain is saying, I need money, but that’s not true. You have money. What’s more true? I mean also, I also thought like in the worst case, I could ask my parents, so, but it’s not what you want to do, but it’s, I know, it’s like my, my brain is like give access the resources. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. Okay. So when you tell yourself this, I have enough money, I got clients and they are paying, up until now I also have access to resources.

 

How does that feel? I feel more relaxed. It’s like not so much pressure anymore. It’s like more, oh, it’s okay. Yeah. Okay. From that place of more relaxed, let’s go to that emotion of relaxed. Can you access that in your body? Sorry, my, my, my dog is barking, so that’s okay. Can you, no worries. I get it. Can you repeat?

 

Does the same said? Yeah. From that feeling of more relaxed, more grounded, more, I’m okay today. What comes about from there, from grounded,

 

like I, I mean, what, what I feel like is I should keep doing what I’m doing, still posting, showing myself bringing value and yeah, just trust. This is what I receive. Okay. Yeah. Yeah, what would you want to believe, right? If you can make the rules of how money works for you and you can trust, what would you want us the new story to be about your business?

 

How money flows in, how it works. I want the story to be that money is always around me and that I always have enough money and I al and I also like have over have an overflow of money and that clients want to work with me and that they’re searching for me already. Okay? Yeah. Yes. So I’m so glad this is being recorded because I want you to go back and watch this and I want you to either write it down or record it and listen to that story every single day.

 

Because the story we tell ourselves is that is what happens in our life. What we decide to believe and what we decide to tell ourselves is what we create. If we say, I never have enough. Oh my God, I’m freaking out. I’m in a dip. I am in this. Then we go to panic, we go to urgency, and we just don’t make the right decisions from that place.

 

They’re not the most aligned, grounded decisions. So one of the best things you can do through this work of reprogramming is continuously bringing yourself back to the energy of grounded. ’cause notice the difference in what it gets activated. When you’re grounded, all of a sudden your higher self gets activated.

 

Your higher knowing gets activated. Yes. Right? Yeah. So from here, what do you think the solution is?

 

I mean, I don’t get like a solution, like a to do. I feel like there’s not, not a to do, right? ’cause I don’t feel like I’m not showing or something, or not showing myself. So I like the to-do is more the what? The to-do that I hear right now is relax all I can hear. A hundred percent because the truth is, it’s not gonna be the actions that create the results.

 

It seems like it would be like, but it’s the energy that’s driving the actions. It’s the thoughts behind the actions that will create the results. That’s why you could double down from panic and start making offers and all this and be freaking out and come to panic and make a bunch of offers, but things are not gonna land from that place.

 

You will not get the same results. Then if you say, okay, clients wanna work with me, I trust this. I know how to make money. I make money in my business. I’m a money maker. It’s all good. I trust that it always flows in. I’m someone who always ends up in overflow. And then you take action from that place, show up from your business in that place, you’re gonna get completely different results.

 

Yeah. So right now it’s about how you think. How you choose to think and how you choose to ground in. Right. You said relax. Yeah. That right there is gonna make all the difference. Yeah. Okay. Yeah. Thank you. Thank you. That’s the work. Absolutely. A hundred percent Exciting. Very exciting. I love it. All right.

 

Hi. That took me a minute to figure out. I get it. How are you? What can I coach you on today? Um, well, I ha it’s, I kind of have it bunched up in my head, so I, I hope I can kind of get it out right. Yeah. But, um, so, you know, this month I’ve just been thinking a lot about, um, just getting more clear on our money situation and I, you know, I thought I.

 

I’m like, oh, I have a decent handle on my money. But really just in thinking about it, I feel like I don’t, and I kind of have my head in the sand a little bit. My husband takes care of the finances a lot. Well, he does, and then, you know, we talk about it a little bit, but I just don’t really have. A good handle on things.

 

Okay. And, um, so, and we’re doing okay, but it’s kind of like, we’re just kind of like, I don’t know, we’re just kind of like floating in the wind and it’s, it’s, it’s a, it’s happening. Okay. But nothing is really intentional. Okay. And so I’ve been thinking about that a lot and I was talking to my husband and.

 

Um, we’re both on the same page, and so I’m gonna start taking over the finances Okay. And helping him with that. And then we will come together and have, you know, our discussions and our talks and stuff in the meantime, you know, we talked about kind of like looking at a budget and so I can get more clear on like, what, what’s going on.

 

And then today we had an appointment with our financial advisor just to kind of. Get on track with our investments and stuff, and I, I guess this is where I kind of get confused because I’m like, I, I wanna have a good handle on our money. Yeah. But then the, the financial advisors, like, I think I’ve told you this before, he, he does kind of the Dave Ramsey thing.

 

Okay. And so, you know, he says things to us that we’re not quite on board with at this point. Okay. Like, oh, if your business that you’re working on, you know, does, doesn’t. Make enough money, then you can just quit that and keep doing your regular job. And we’re like, no, we’re not gonna do give up. You know?

 

Okay. Yeah. I mean, yeah. Okay. So there are things like that where we have things put in our head that, and we just said we didn’t accept that, you know, we’re not gonna accept that part of it, but I wanna work on the budget and getting clear with my money and having a good handle on it. But I don’t wanna get like, so down into the weeds that I’m like kind of cutting off.

 

Any kind of manifestation. Does that make sense? I okay. Yeah, yeah, totally. Of course. I, I guess I’m kind of con, I, I, okay. I don’t know. I have these feelings, but, or these thoughts, but it’s kind of hard for me to verbalize them, I think. No, I get what you’re saying completely. Yeah. So. But I first, Kathleen, just want to acknowledge you because I know that where you are now is a tribute to the work you’ve done around your relationship with money and that’s, it’s so amazing to watch the natural evolution of it as you do this work, it’s like all this sudden it’s not, I have to look at my money I have, it’s.

 

Oh, I want to. Mm-hmm. Right. And I’m seeing that as an intention of yours. I wanna get a better handle of this. Like there’s this desire to dive in and do that. Mm-hmm. So my question would be, what makes you think that’s going to. Harm the manifestation process or get in the way of it, I guess? Well, I guess I just, I don’t wanna be too stuck in the weeds of the budget, like getting like really like strict and like, ’cause to even today, you know, my, my husband was like, well, you make this, I make this and it’s gonna take us 10 months to pay off this debt.

 

And I’m like, okay. But I, I was like, it doesn’t have to be just your income. My income. I mean, there’s lots of other ways that money can come to us that we can manifest. And I said, ’cause I used to work for the VA hospital and there’s a couple times where checks have just shown up in the mail like that I out of nowhere, you know, or we got a check, a big check.

 

Refund from the dentist one time. Yeah. I mean, so totally. I’m like, there’s other ways to manifest things. So I am still working on like staying in that mindset of like, it’s not just going to be what you bring in and I bring in, there’s gonna be other things that just. Kind of come to us. Totally. So I’m, I’m working on being open like that, but I just, I guess I don’t want to get like, so stuck in the weeds of a budget.

 

’cause my husband’s like, well, every month we can blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. And I, I don’t know, I guess I’m like, I wanna. Do a budget to kind of see where our money’s going. Yep. But I don’t know if I wanna be like super strict like that every month. Like, oh, this is how much we spend on coffee, this is how much we spend.

 

You know what I’m saying? Yep. Totally. Totally. And I don’t know, I guess there’s no right or wrong. I, ’cause part of me is like, is that the right way to do it? Am I supposed to do it that way or Totally. Here’s a question that I have for you. If you took on the belief, we actually do have a pretty good handle on our money.

 

I actually do have a pretty good handle on my money. If you took on that belief, what would be different in the way that you look at this? If I had, I probably would feel more confident in what I was doing instead of questioning, um, am am I doing it right or Yes? Yeah. Yes. The other belief that I would lean into is that you get to do this in your way.

 

There’s no real like right or wrong way to do it. I think when it comes to finance, oftentimes we think it’s that one super masculine, strict way, and that’s the only right way to do it when we’re budgeting every single dollar and all of that. Right? And that’s the right way. And if we’re not doing it that way, we must not be having much of a handle on it, or we must not be doing it right.

 

And I will tell you, I’ve never done that in my life. Okay. And I believe that I have a great handle on my money, but that’s for me, right? I’m not saying that that’s right for everyone. I think we all just need to tune into what feels like the right way for us, given our circumstances and situation right now.

 

Like what feels the most natural, intuitive. Doable. Something we can stay committed to that actually feels good. Like these are the types of questions I would be asking. Okay. And for you both to decide like what way feels right to you? If it’s not necessarily the Dave Ramsey way, that’s a hundred percent right, or it’s not avoiding it completely.

 

That’s not, you know, it, it’s not one or the other. Okay. It can be your own way. Okay. Because part of part of doing this, I’m, I’m feeling like I don’t want it to be like super restrictive where it’s like depressing. And it’s like, like I said, my husband’s like, it’s gonna take us 10 months to pay that off.

 

You know? And, and then you’re like, uh, it just sounds so long and it’s like 10 months of our life. You know what I, I’m just like, I just don’t wanna, yeah. I want it to be more like what you were saying, like more intuitive and what feels natural and what feels good and Yeah. That like, oh, we’re, we’re doing this and like, this is awesome and Yeah.

 

You know? Yeah. Yeah. Yes. Okay. So what is doing it look like for you in a way that feels good? I think, well, I think it was really good because for one, um, I was listening, I had listened to it before, but I listened to it again. The video, one of the videos from this month’s, um, theme, and you were talking about, you know, what are your assets, what are your debts, things like that.

 

And so. We do go over that stuff with our financial advisor once a year, but it was like last year sometime, and so I just didn’t really remember. So I thought that was really good just to kind of see what our a, I mean, we’re not broke, you know, and it’s. Even though sometimes it feels like a little bit of a struggle.

 

Yeah. It just really opens your eyes to like, oh my gosh, we, we do have assets. You know, and I mean, we’re not broke. We, we’ve done. Okay. And so that was really good just to kind of have that top of mind and to remember that, you know, we, we do have money. Yep. Um, so I like that. And then just kind of having that as a reminder I think is really positive.

 

And then I think just for me, just having the budget, like doing it one time Yep. And kind of seeing where all the money’s going, because I said, like I said, my husband does it. Yep. Um, for the most part. So I’m, sometimes I feel like I don’t really know, and like when he wants to make a decision together, I’m like, well, I don’t really know.

 

Yeah, totally. You know. I trust, you know, I trust you, or what do you think? Or, so I wanna be able to do that budget, just so I know. Yeah. And then, you know, I, I guess maybe going from there, I don’t know exactly, but I just don’t wanna be doing like, the tedious budget every month necessarily. Yeah, totally. Um, knowing maybe, like, I know you had talked about like three buckets.

 

You have, I think like your spending and your high. Value. Yeah. Yeah. The money market and then the investments. Yeah. So just maybe having some specific budget buckets that we know that we’re, you know, ing to be. Yeah, a hundred percent. Yes. And I think it’s all gonna stem also, the way in which you do it will stem from the belief.

 

We actually do have a pretty good handle on this, and I’m building more awareness. That’s what I think you’re doing. You’re not necessarily like. Budgeting. Sometimes that word can feel just restrictive in and of itself. It does, but it’s like, what I think of it is, it’s just an awareness tool. Whenever I go in and I look at where our money is going, mm-hmm.

 

It’s an awareness, oh, I wanna pull it back in this area a little bit. Or, oh, I don’t like that we are spending so much on this. Like, let’s pull that back, or let’s put that money into something else. It’s an awareness tool. Okay. That’s, I like that. Yeah. Yeah. And one of the things that we told our in invest our, um.

 

Advisor this morning. You know, he always calls it an emergency fund and it’s like, ah, we hate that word because it’s like, I’m not trying to manifest in emergency. Yep, yep, yep. So we told him, we don’t want you to call that anymore. Please call it a freedom fund. I love that. That’s so, that’s beautiful. I love that.

 

I’m like, we have to come up with a different word, you know? Yeah. So it’s like we’re. Free to do these things like with the house or a car or the dentist or you know, whatever it is. Yep. That we are free to just write the check and be done with it and not have to worry about it. I love it. I do have one other thing though.

 

Like one of the things that I have noticed lately, I just didn’t really think I had it. It’s like I didn’t think I had an issue. But one of the things is when I do look at our bank accounts, I do notice myself periodically when I don’t. I guess it’s when I don’t like what I see. I just, you know, I look at it and I’m like, Ooh.

 

And you know, I’ve just found myself doing that. Yep. And so I, I guess just, you know, just getting some help with, I obviously have some thoughts around that, and I’m not sure what exactly it is, except that maybe it’s like, oh, there’s not that much there. Yeah. Or, and I, I guess maybe just writing out my ideas about.

 

Money and my thoughts. I’m not sure what else to kind of do to work through that. Totally. So I think it’s okay to be honest with yourself and say, I don’t like what I see. Mm-hmm. And it’s not permanent. Right. Okay. Right. There’s like an acceptance of this is what it is. This is not what I ultimately want, but this is also where it’s at.

 

I’m gonna give gratitude for what we do have, but also like it’s shifting. And you’re making me think like whenever I, I changed my relationship with my body in a huge way and I used to always like try to lose weight from like hatred and all that, and I decided I was going to accept my body as it was.

 

This also applies like with money, right? So like I remember I was like, well, how do you lose weight in a way where you don’t hate yourself? How do I lose weight whenever I’m like, I actually don’t like where I am. Mm-hmm. But I wanna lose weight, but I wanna do it from love. And so I would step on the scale and I would say, this is where I am.

 

It’s not where I ultimately want to be, but I can accept it today and it’s okay. And I can love myself today, and I can love my body today, and I can dress it beautifully today and take the best care of myself. But know that ultimately this is not where I know I’m, my hormones are mostly balanced. Mm-hmm.

 

Okay. So I only, I like to bring it to different things. Yeah. So like how could you look at your budget or your, sorry, your bank account in that way? I think, I think so. I mean, because it, it isn’t permanent and Yeah. I mean, we’re, we’re always okay. Yeah. It doesn’t matter. I mean, it never gets to a point where we’re not, you know, it just might not be exactly what I wanna see.

 

So I think that’s a good, I, you know, that’s a good idea is that, you know, thinking it’s not permanent and we are always taken care of. We’re al you know, we are safe. Yep. Um, beautiful. And yeah, that we’re just open to, yeah. Yeah, and it’s gonna grow from here. You guys are doing amazing foundational work that’s only gonna make this grow, and you’re doing it from such a beautiful energy.

 

Okay. Yeah. So that’s what I would look at. It’s like you don’t have to look at it and say, I love that amount, but, right. Because then we’re just lying to ourselves. But instead of cringing, I could, yeah. Change my thoughts and my beliefs about it. It, instead of creating a story around it, oh, it’s always gonna be this way and it’s always been and blah, blah, blah.

 

It’s like, no. You just decide the story you want to tell. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. So good. Thank you. So, yeah, thank you so much. I’m excited. I feel good about it. Yes, me too. Keep me posted. I will. Thank you. Yep. All right, Monica.

 

You. You too. Thank you. Yes. Thank you so much for this time. It’s always nice to get a little touch up. I know it doesn’t it.

 

So my question for you is, how do you know when or if maybe it’s time to, uh, let go of something you’ve been trying to manifest? Good question. Yeah. I’ve been working in my business and, you know, going with it for a while. Mm-hmm. And we know that it. You know, with your help when gangbusters amazing. But yeah.

 

But thank you. Um, you know, the more I look around and get to know the people inside of the corporation that I have, yeah. You know, really no control over. I’m finding, maybe I’m feeling like it’s, it’s not really the right place. It’s not. I don’t feel like they’re necessarily aligned with what they say they align with.

 

Okay. Um, and I’m wondering if it’s even really the right place for me anymore. Okay. Yeah, totally. So how do you think you would know if it’s time to let something go? Like, I want you to think about your life and something that you knew was ready to be released or you were ready for a change. How did you know?

 

Uh, you know, I was, uh, I’ll say tired, um, you know, there with work certainly burned out, frustrated, um, you know, generally unhappy, I guess. Okay, and how did you know, what was it that made you, was it like a gut response? Was there just a time where there came a knowing that it was time to pivot or release something?

 

If you think back. How did you make that decision? Gosh, the last time I made that decision, literally I just threw my hands up in the air and said, I can’t do this anymore, and walked away with nothing else to go to. I mean, the frustration and the, and I really just, the, the stress of all of it Yeah. Was, it was just enough that I didn’t wanna live that way anymore.

 

Okay. So you just knew Yeah. Okay. Yeah. That’s typically how I know if I’m gonna, I’m ready to let something go if it just no longer feels in alignment. If it’s just, and for me it’s a, it’s similar. It’s just, I just get to a point where I know it feels really clear and I’ve had that for sure. Yeah. It’s Where do you feel like you are with the one you’re thinking about?

 

Uh, well, that actually is with, uh, with my business. Yeah. I mean, you know, I’ve, I’ve grown, um, yeah, I’ve had success. I mean, you know, you’ve watched Yeah. Yeah. Um, but yeah, I, I just, there are so many factors that are challenging for me to deal with. Like right now I’m in Maryland. Yep. And, um, I swear we’ve had no less than three monsoons over the past two months.

 

That’s wild. I wouldn’t guess that in Maryland. Oh my gosh, I haven’t been able to have someone cut the lawn. Oh my goodness. Because you know, with the mowers they’ll just get stuck in the grass and it won’t be good. But yeah, I mean, just so much rain and I think, you know, maybe I don’t want my income, my revenue to be so incredibly.

 

Weather dependent. Yeah. Right. And it, it really is. And there’s nothing that I can do. And I’m looking around, like I said, inside of the corporation and one of the things that drew me to this place Yeah. Was their sense of core values. Yeah. And the more I get to know them, the more I think, you know, it’s nice words.

 

But we’re not really living that right now. Yeah. And I, I found my path with your help to actually being aligned to where and who Right. I am and want to be. Yep. And to continue to create that. And maybe the hardest part in my mind, and maybe this is the answer of all of it, is that, you know, I feel like I’m making money because I’m with a franchise for people that maybe aren’t even in line with what it is, and yet I really still love, you know what I do, you know?

 

Yeah, yeah, yeah. So what do you think, as we talk this through, where do you think you are with it? You know, I’m in that, this is what I know and it’s familiar and I’m really good at it. Yeah. So I hate to let it go Right hard. Yeah. And yet I’m having trouble keeping my heart in it. Yeah. I’m having trouble keeping my mind in it.

 

Yeah. A lot of times I’m working out of a sense of loyalty or maybe even responsibility to the people that I employ. Yeah. Uh, and for sure to my customers, you know, I would never just, you know, walk away and leave, you know, any of my customers hanging. Yeah. Um. You know, and yet somewhere in there I’m like, you know, I know that I get to be at the top of the list from time to time.

 

Yeah. I don’t always have to be at the top, but Right. It sounds like, just to reflect, tell me if this sounds accurate, but it’s like settling for good enough, like it’s like there’s good things about it. It’s good enough. There’s things that I like about it, but it’s not what I ultimately want for my life.

 

Is that Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yes. Okay. So what are your options with it? Um, you know, I could sell it. Mm-hmm. Um, I could consider hiring someone else to run it. Yep. Um, I could obviously keep going with it. Yep. Um, or you know, I could just say, oh, it’s yours. You keep, yeah, yeah, yeah. So there’s some options. Yeah.

 

And what’s really fun is, you know, manifestation. So you can tune in and see if any of these feel right for right now. Yeah. Because there’s also a world in which you don’t have to decide this right now too. Or you might say, I’m ready to decide this. Yeah, so it’s so funny that you say that because at some point, um, I was sitting and doing some meditation with it, and I just asked the universe to send me just, just because I was in a mindset, just send me a buyer out of the blue.

 

Let’s just see what happens. Yeah. And so I kept. Two things. I kept like the, the name Bob Byer out of the blue in my head. Just for fun. Yeah. You know, I’m ready to meet Bob. Where is Bob? Yes. And that afternoon I actually met a client named Bob and I was laughing so hard that there was Bob. Yeah. And then like a couple of days later, um, somebody who was interested in buying a business, like buying, called to ask me just questions about, you know, do you like what you’re doing?

 

And I got that. Well, that’s really interesting that just some random buyer called me. So on some level, I feel like the universe is sort of. To meet me a hundred percent. You know? And yet there’s that part that’s like, but I worked so hard. I believed so big. I made it happen. Well, and that’s the thing that I think it’s like, that’s all true.

 

And what if that is all could be setting you up for something bigger than you even thought. That’s why we put this or something even better. For the highest good of all concerned at the end of our manifestations, because this could have been here as a stepping stone or as an evolution for you where you stepped into belief.

 

You learned how to grow an entire massive business, like you learned how to manage that business. And also what if you could also decide you wanted to sell it for a super abundant price, and then you got to go do the next vision for yourself. Yeah. Our visions don’t have to be forever. You can put a lot of belief into something and it’s worth it for those that time that you did it.

 

Yeah, so that’s, I guess, maybe an old thought that I need to. Reexamine. Right. Because I come from that generation where you stay until you get the Gold Pocket watch. Yes. And you do the same thing for a million years, whether you like it or not, you just keep doing it. Totally, totally. And that’s just what you get to question.

 

Yeah. You know, and I see this a lot with, I used to train coaches, um, and they would go through training and then sometimes they would realize I loved. I loved the training. I loved everything that I learned, but I really just wanna go all in on my job. But they’d be like, but I put all this time into learning how to become a coach.

 

I have to, and it’s like. Or not, or you just take everything you learned into your other job like you’re a coach for life. Just like you. You are a CEO for life. Like you get to bring all of this belief and everything you did into everything you do from here on out. Well, you know what’s so ironic about that is you know that I was a coach.

 

I know, right? Yes. So I don’t even know where that went. In my mind. Yes, totally. See, you know, it’s like you let it go of, you didn’t tell yourself, I have to be a coach. I can’t take this energy into something else. It’s the same with this. Yeah. Can you give yourself permission to change? Yeah. Yeah. Oh, that’s really helpful.

 

Yeah. And not to make it a negative thing, but as a positive thing of I put all this belief into this and oh my gosh, look at what I’ve created as an effect. Yeah, and it, yeah. I, I, I have a feeling you’re gonna, something magical is gonna happen next, whether that be a buyer, whether that be you selling it for double what you thought you could, it’s gonna be really, really awesome.

 

Okay. Yeah. That just feels so much better. I love it. So good permission to change a hundred percent to change. Yes. Yes. And to take what I have with me, like I don’t have to leave it in a box behind me. I took my coaching skills and put them here with my teams, and I’ll take these skills and move them forward into whatever the next creation, whatever it is.

 

Oh, that’s hundred percent. So good. Oh my God, I love it. Thank you. You so excited to keep me posted on everything. I will. All right, love it you. Bye Monica. Bye. Hi. Hi. I had to pop off ’cause I had a client and then, and I was bu well, you know, I’m still here and I was like, and then he ended up no showing it, you know, no fault of his own.

 

He is a sweet guy, but like, it didn’t work out. I was like, oh, I can get back on the phone. That was meant to be. I love it. Yeah, and I was like running errands. I was like, I don’t wanna talk while I’m driving. And I like just parked. So I love it. It is perfect. Yeah. Perfect. Yeah, I’ve gotten, um, I’ve gotten like so much out of everything that’s been shared and I can like, relate to a lot of it, so I’ve extrapolated a lot.

 

Um. Where I am is I own my own massage business. Okay, cool. And I’ve been open for like six years, but it was all like divine stuff where things fell into place and I didn’t have to do a whole lot of like overhead or spending at first. Yeah. So. Now I’m kind of at this place where I’m like, I am. I am like self-sufficient.

 

I’m a single mom homeowner. I do feel the weight of having to carry like myself and my son a lot. Okay. And I do get into fear. Okay. And lack and scarcity. And I’ve been feeling like just such a shift in the last couple of days of like, oh, this is like remembering this is the work that I need to do is around energy.

 

Yep. And I’m all about energy work. Like I talk about energy work all the time, but. I like this last month was probably like the scariest, where it was like after the first of the month and all the bills, I was like. Two, $300 in my account. I’m like, oh my God. And there was like, I really struggled with coming to any sort of like abundance mindset.

 

Yeah. And I did a scary thing, scary for me. I like never take out loans, but I decided to take out the square loan that’s always offered to me instantly, like felt relief and like, this is when I’ve been opened up. I found your class. Like I, yep. All of this started hitting at the same time when that happens.

 

Yes, I know. I was like, uh, I’m sorry I’m a little sick. But, um, I, I, um, just feeling like the freedom of having that cushion has allowed me to like, open up again. Yeah. There’s that like teeny tiny part of me that’s like, but that’s gonna run out and if you don’t start making more money and all this, I’m just letting that like, be like, I’m okay.

 

Doing all this stuff. My, I think what I want coaching on, because like I understand what I need to do in the present moment. I think it’s like finding my story and my origin story around money. Yep. And I, mine’s interesting because my childhood was like, I was split between two households. One in Texas and one here in South Carolina where I am now.

 

Um, I lived with my mom in Texas and she married a man who, you know, said. I’m gonna, you know, make you a rich woman. We’re gonna get rich and have this beautiful house and I’ll make all your dreams come true. And she left my dad, who is like a very sturdy, steady, blue collar guy. Yeah. Who’s never left South Carolina.

 

Left him for my stepdad. Okay. At the time. Yep. He did. Made the millions. Yeah. And I grew up never wanting for anything. Okay. And then I’d go visit dad and stepmom who were penny pinchers. And there was almost like this shame around like, is that why you’re staying there? He wasn’t very nice. Like, okay, you know, is it because of the money?

 

So then I felt, I felt like a brat. Um, there’s like all this like stuff where it’s like, okay, well I know what living in abundance, not having to ask or want for anything feels like, but it never felt safe. Okay. I never felt like it was like real, or there was an actual foundation, and lo and behold, like he lost it all.

 

And like they struggle. Okay. So there’s like shame, there’s like distrust. There’s like. But it’s like, but that felt really good. Like I love that lifestyle. Yeah. And I don’t wanna feel ashamed for wanting it. Yeah. And I wanna feel like that is possible for me. A hundred percent. Yeah. So, so what I’m curious about is, mm-hmm.

 

How would you describe your relationship with money? Like if you were to describe like, this is how it is for me now. Mm-hmm. How would you describe that? Doing the journaling and stuff has helped me like figure this out. Yeah. Is that, I feel like a slave to money. Okay. So money feels like my oppressor.

 

Okay. Like, it’s like I have to, you know, work to the bone to make money. Like it is not, it’s not an ally, it’s not a friend. Okay. It’s, yeah. Yeah. Scary. Do you think it’s. So it sounds like it feels the opposite of what you grew up or with your dad right around when, when he was making the money. It’s the opposite of that, right?

 

Where you are feeling like you have to kind of penny pinch. Yeah. So like, okay. Yeah. My mom, my mom. That was like mom’s side. Yep. Very like free fun with money. Okay. Um, sorry. Mom’s side. Yeah. You’re good. Yeah, I, it’s very complicated and I like, you know, intuitively like. Felt that there wasn’t a, uh, like roots to his wealth because Right.

 

He came from poverty. Yeah. He made a big buck. Okay. He wasn’t a trustworthy guy. Yeah. Not good at this. All of that, you know? Okay. Um, yeah. So I wonder, I just wanna check in with you, but do you think subconsciously you sort of associate like being in abundance and that overflow of not having to worry with not.

 

It’s like a lack of safety in that yes. Yeah. Yeah. Like it’s not safe. It can be taken away from you in a minute. Mm-hmm. Totally. So it makes sense why your energetic set point now then would be to be kind of in more of the like, have to work hard for it, be in a little bit more of the, the penny pinch. You have to be really intentional about everything because there’s a level of safety that you’ve connected to that.

 

Yeah. Like that’s safer. Making a bunch and then maybe there’s no roots in it and it’s not grounded and you may lose it all. Yeah. So of course like on a subconscious level, it’s like you want to be here ’cause it feels safer. Yeah. And the ironic thing is, is like I’m not a penny pincher. Like I can be very irresponsible with money.

 

Okay. ’cause I have that thing going. You deserve that indulgence. Yeah. Okay. So like you deserve to buy those jeans or that makeup. Got it. And then I’m like, that was so irresponsible. Okay. Yeah. You know? Yes. Yes. So I’ve got like both sides still pulling at me a little bit. Yeah. So I think at the core, and there’s probably many pieces and layers to this, it’s never usually like one thing, uh, or one story.

 

Usually this is work that we wanna kind of work through a little bit over time, but I would say. The, to kind of sum it up, the opportunity seems like it’s going to be to create safety around big money. Yeah. And to let go of the idea that having big money is not rooted. It’s not grounded. It could leave.

 

That story right there is what’s preventing you from stepping into that. Yeah, I think you’re so right. Yeah. And there’s something that, like you have been saying that clicked for me that I didn’t realize was that I was making the connection between big money and unkindness. Yes. Empty souls. Like I met so many people at the country club who were soulless or you know, or went to church, but then we’re doing like bad stuff, you know, like yeah.

 

Just hypocrites. And you’re like, you can be wealthy and kind. You can be wealthy and generous. You can be wealthy and be a good soul. I’m like, yes. Oh, a hundred. And I would add a couple more. You can be, you can be wealthy and grounded. You can be wealthy and it be rooted in something safe that feels really good.

 

Yeah. That’s the difference, right? Yeah. That feels so, it’s like I forgive myself for buying into the misbelief that. I have to be in the struggle for it to feel safe, or I have to work really hard for it. For it to be grounded in something that is just the illusion that you took on. Yeah. Or that you have to work really hard for it in order for it to be respected too.

 

Yes. And I think your opportunity is now paving your own way of what you want money to be for you. Right. Because it’s not necessarily. Either of the sides that you saw growing up. Yeah. But now you get to decide, ooh, what’s the aligned way that I wanna do it? Mm-hmm. How can I blend these two a hundred percent?

 

Yeah. Yeah, yeah. Yep. Maybe it’s not even blend them. It’s like take, yeah. It, it is. It’s taking the pieces that I like from this, taking the pieces that I like from this, and maybe there’s like a Lindsay way that’s totally different too. Mm-hmm. Yeah. Where there’s pieces from places I haven’t even seen yet.

 

Yeah, yeah. Absolutely. Yeah. So, yeah, and what I’m, and I’m encouraged because it’s opening me up to exploring like different ways of growing massage business because there’s, you know, there’s. One channel. There’s one way of making money as a massage therapist, hands-on work, you know? But there are actually other ways.

 

And so I’m finally like. Doing the work to figure out what those, those are so, so fun. You’re opening new channels for abundance to flow in. Yes. Yeah. I love it. Thank you. So good. Yes. Thank you. I’m excited for you. Thanks. So glad we, we found each other. I know. Me too. Divine late. That’s amazing. Yes, absolutely.

 

So good. Awesome, Lindsay. Amazing. Thank you. All right, y’all. Let’s see. Okay. Thanks for hanging out everyone. I’ve loved having you all.

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