From Bankruptcy to Millionaire with Lauree Arnold

[00:00:00] Jamie: Welcome back to the podcast my friends. I have a second time guest with me today. I think you might be my first. Ever second time guest, Lauree on the podcast. Welcome in. Lauree Arnold, I’m so excited for this conversation. We did an episode a couple of, maybe it might have been about a year ago, or not even, but couple episodes back talking about the power of.

[00:00:35] Reducing alcohol in your life and eliminating it and what happens. And Lauree talked about her incredible journey of stopping drinking and she is a coach, um, who does that. You wanna talk a little bit about what you do and then we’re gonna dive into. The other part of your life that I’m so excited for you to share.

[00:00:54] So just share for a minute what you do, um, in terms.

[00:00:56] Lauree: Absolutely. So I, I love to think of myself as an alcohol free empowerment coach. Um, my work is really around that identity of working with, you know, high performing women who have careers. They’ve got great jobs, they’ve got great lives. Everything feels together.

[00:01:11] But when it comes to. Alcohol when it comes to drinking, they’re really negotiating with themselves. So my work is really helping them to break that cycle. Um, you know, doing that nervous system work and then also just by really shifting how they see themselves and how they see their life and becoming the woman that no longer needs alcohol anymore.

[00:01:33] Jamie: Yeah. And so we talked about that on the previous episode, but what was so cool is. Lauree was sharing on Instagram stories, a post about like all the impact that’s had on her life, what has happened as she’s let go of drinking, and one of the things she posted was that. She said, within the last 10 years, I went from bankruptcy to Millionaire.

[00:01:59] I said, Lauree, we gotta talk about this, because Lauree’s also been in the money manifestation movement. We’ve been working together for a while, and even going further back, I was lucky enough to be your coach instructor at Coach training. And so we’ve known each other a while, and I’ve never heard this full story, so it was like.

[00:02:21] Rather than me messaging you, diving in, asking you all the things, let’s get you back on the podcast and let’s talk about this because I know there’s a lot of listeners that are going through financial hardship right now, right? Maybe they are carrying a lot of debt, or maybe they’ve gone through bankruptcy and they’re working through that and they are thinking.

[00:02:40] I want to create a new reality for myself. Or maybe they’re thinking, God, is it even possible? And you are such an example of what’s possible. Like I got chills just seeing your post. So I was like, okay, we need to talk about this because I wanna dive into here. You know, the mindset of the before, the shifts that happened, the after, the advice that you would give to people who are going through financial hardship, and really just to be an example that like whatever you’re going through right now isn’t permanent.

[00:03:12] You could literally be in a completely different place. 10 years from now, I mean five years from now, one year from now. Honestly, a week from now you can, we were just talking about that with one of my clients who like last week was getting coached and in all the drama and then this week celebrating all these wins.

[00:03:28] I’m like, wait a minute. Weren’t you like ready to quit everything a week ago? So, I mean, a lot can change. And so, Lauree, thank you for coming on and sharing your story. So if you are open to it, I would love to go back in time. And if you could share and take us back to the moment where things felt the hardest for you financially, what did that look like for 

[00:03:53] you?

[00:03:53] Lauree: It would be more than 10 years ago, I think. Just before I got, so in 2016, I actually got discharged from bankruptcy and it was 2012 where I had to obviously apply to become bankrupt. And at the time I was going through a really messy divorce. Um, there were child. You know, there were the family court issues going on.

[00:04:15] Um, we had a unfinished house at the time, so there was unfinished renovations. You couldn’t sell it without the renovations. It, it just felt like everything was closing in on, on me, particularly because of everything that was going on. And so. I wasn’t sleeping, I had insomnia. I ended up having to, um, I ended up quitting my job at the time because, and I was in a leadership role and I was really, really struggling.

[00:04:46] So I was just making all these decisions, uh. All these decisions that, you know, when you look back you go, oh, that probably wasn’t so bright. But in the moment it was, it felt like the only decision that I, I could make. And I didn’t have any of the tools that we’ve got now. You know, I didn’t know anything about coaching.

[00:05:04] I had never done any work around self-development. Someone had a told me back then that your thoughts create your reality. I would’ve laughed and, and their face. So I’m like, what? What do you mean your thoughts? Create your results. Don’t, don’t be ridiculous. Ex-husband, 

[00:05:21] Jamie: what does that even mean? 

[00:05:24] Lauree: My ex-husband created that.

[00:05:26] My kids created, my boss created it. Like what is going on? So that, yeah, 2012 was, was definitely the heaviest, heaviest time of my life. And at that point, I think I was about maybe 32, 33, and it wasn’t my first divorce either, so it was my second. So there was even more pressure that I was putting on myself because I was also beating myself up the same time.

[00:05:49] You know, everything just, there’s massive wild storms of life decided to just. Go decided to cyclone’s. Life will just work. Just, just be here right now. 

[00:06:02] Jamie: Right. So if someone were to look at back at your life at that time, if they were just observing you, then what do you think they would’ve assumed about your future?

[00:06:11] Just having looked at you, seen what you’re going through, 

[00:06:12] Lauree: what was their thought? I, I’m pretty sure people were, were literally scratching their head going, what are you doing? You’ve just quit this amazing job with six figures. You, you’re. You’re not going anywhere. You are drinking all the time. Um, you know, you are avoiding, you’re, you are avoiding your child Support matters.

[00:06:29] You are avoiding, um, you know, you’re, you’re not showing up in your life. And I, I think people would’ve probably assumed like, she’ll do this again. Um, you know, she’ll repeat this again, or, I don’t see how she’s gonna get out of this. Yeah. I don’t think people would’ve thought I would’ve been able to grow through it and past it.

[00:06:53] So yeah, I, I would, I would love to have seen myself been a fly on the wall back in my own life and just, I know I would’ve been scratching my head. Yeah. 

[00:07:04] Jamie: Yeah. So now you have created a million dollar net worth mm-hmm. Just 10 years after being discharged from that. Okay. So what about your life looks and feels surreal today that maybe the version of you 10 years ago moving forward would’ve been absolutely mind blown?

[00:07:26] Lauree: Yeah. She, she certainly wouldn’t have seen, um, multiple six figures as an income for herself. She, 

[00:07:34] Jamie: yeah, 

[00:07:34] Lauree: she would’ve hoped to have had some investments. She would’ve. I hoped that, um, it was possible for her, but she wouldn’t have believed seeing her past how she grew up, these two, you know, these two big divorces that she’d had, the, the ripple effect of all of that.

[00:07:55] She would not have dreamed in a million years that she would actually get to a million dollars. She would just be hoping and praying, and of course we know we are hoping and praying gets us, yeah. Doesn’t always get us to the result that we want. But yeah, she was hoping. 

[00:08:12] Jamie: Yeah. Wow. Yeah. So what, was there a moment that things shifted for you?

[00:08:18] Or would you say it was like a series of moments you remember back? Did you make a decision? How did this evolution at least? It, 

[00:08:26] Lauree: it was definitely a series of decisions and I remember, I remember thinking to myself when I was, um. Knee deep in a bottle of red wine, trying to find the answers at the bottom of that.

[00:08:39] Um, you know, what, what is going on with my life? Why does this keep happening to me? Why does this keep happening to me? Uh, you know, looking up to the stars, hoping that something would like pop out magically and say, this is what’s happening. And when I really circled back and looked at everything that was going on in my life, I just had this sudden realization.

[00:08:57] I was like, oh. I’m the common denominator going on here. This is on me. This is like, I can look at the husband and I can change the husband, but it doesn’t change the result. 

[00:09:11] Jamie: Mm. Yeah. So there was a, an awareness of, like a self-responsibility of like, Hmm, maybe I need to look within, I need to look at what’s going on, 

[00:09:20] Lauree: what’s, yeah.

[00:09:21] It was, it was a huge realization that I was, I was, and this is before coaching that, that I was creating what was happening in my life, or I was, you know, at least 50% of me in that relationship was creating it. So I had to take, yeah. Hundred percent responsibility for, for where I was at. So yeah, radical self responsibility I think was the first kind of step.

[00:09:41] Wow. Um, but it would be another, 

[00:09:43] Jamie: yep, 

[00:09:43] Lauree: maybe six or seven years before life coaching kind of found me. And that’s where things really started to change was obviously around that awareness piece and what my thoughts were creating. And, and also I think the biggest part for me was emotion. I hadn’t grown up with someone who role modeled what it looked like to be able to, um, emotionally regulate.

[00:10:06] I didn’t even know what really emotions were. They were just things that just happened. And I think that’s what life coaching really taught me was the, the tools around awareness and your feelings, your emotions, actually creating the next, you know, your behavior pattern. So that was a big aha for me to learn that.

[00:10:24] And you know, I was 40 years old before I learned that. Yeah, 

[00:10:28] Jamie: yeah, yeah. Oh my gosh. Well, what perfect timing, right? And like, what a gift, what. A gift. Some people never learn it, so it’s like, ugh. So much gratitude for that. What, okay, so when you started learning that your thoughts are creating your reality and that your emotions have so much to do with this whole everything, um, I, I’m curious, like looking back, what do you think some of the.

[00:11:03] Thoughts were that created the debt and that created the situation previously. 

[00:11:09] Lauree: So. 

[00:11:11] Jamie: That you weren’t aware of at the time, but maybe now in hindsight you’re like, this is what created it. And it could be behaviors, thoughts, feelings, behaviors, like what was the model that got 

[00:11:20] Lauree: you into Yeah, it definitely would not have recognized a thought as a thought.

[00:11:25] Um, I even, when I look back now, I recognize the behavior, I recognize the pattern, but I don’t necessarily. Know what the thought was driving it. I just know that, um, my passions were coming from subconscious beliefs around, um, you know what I saw? Uh, what I saw, I suppose in my childhood is, you know, I saw my mom struggling with debt.

[00:11:47] I saw my mom struggling with income. I saw her, you know, I heard her talking about people being filthy rich, um, that the rich get richer and the poor get poorer. So there was kind of always the story. It was a lot of what I saw and then just took on very, very subconsciously, did not, did not even recognize it happening.

[00:12:05] And I, and I remember in. I think it was 2021. Jamie Wynn. I joined your master, your very first mastermind outside of coach certification. 

[00:12:13] Jamie: Yep. 

[00:12:13] Lauree: And I remember you coaching me and you were like, who taught you that? And my whole brain just shut down and Yeah. Even now it makes me emotional because, um, I just, it was like this massive aha that, oh my gosh, I took on so many beliefs from my childhood and had no idea they were actually even at play.

[00:12:35] Jamie: Yeah. 

[00:12:38] Lauree: Right. Yeah. 

[00:12:39] Jamie: Right. Totally. Yeah. It just feels like our, it just 

[00:12:42] Lauree: feels 

[00:12:42] real. 

[00:12:43] Jamie: Yeah. It feels like 

[00:12:43] Lauree: truth. It feels like real. A hundred percent. And then the following year when I did, um, trauma certification, that’s when it really kind of like hit me like, wow, I have some really funky beliefs going on, and every time I want to challenge them, my protector jumps in place and goes, Nope, we are not going there.

[00:13:00] Mm-hmm. That is, that’s gonna probably hurt. That’s gonna be too painful. Let’s not go there. And so that was another piece of work outside of Money Beliefs that I had to really work on was, um, being, you know, being in conversation with my parts and really trying to give them safety around it’s okay to think new things.

[00:13:21] It’s okay to feel new things and therefore it’s actually okay to also behave differently to how we might have in the past. 

[00:13:32] Jamie: Wow. Okay, so I wanna, I wanna slow that down because this is amazing right here. I think this is so important because there are so many listeners who feel like, okay, I have some awareness around my money beliefs, or I notice this is the pattern that I grow up with and I’m not creating the results that I want, but I don’t know how to change it.

[00:13:52] Feels, I always hear people say it feels deep in my bones. I feel like it’s in my subconscious. I don’t know, even though my conscious mind wants to believe something new. I do not know how to get my being on board with a new, more freeing, more abundant way of thinking because this feels so ingrained. So you touched on it with the trauma certification and doing some of that work.

[00:14:17] What would you say to someone who is struggling with shifting out. Old belief patterns and it, it just, they feel really stuck in it. They feel like they’ve been trying to thought swap for a long time. 

[00:14:29] Lauree: Yeah. And that’s really what I recognize is like, I could not think my way through it no matter how much I tried.

[00:14:33] I could not, 

[00:14:34] Jamie: yeah. 

[00:14:35] Lauree: It just didn’t f it, it wouldn’t fit. It was like. You know, getting a jacket on halfway and your arms just rejecting it because it doesn’t feel right. And so a lot of the tools that I had to learn yeah, was all around that self-soothing piece. Um, I didn’t enjoy meditation, hated meditation.

[00:14:54] A high achiever who wants, who you know, has to learn how to be still. That was like lying on shards of glass for me. So I had to learn a lot of new tools to help me. Be with my thoughts to really feel all the way through them, um, and create safety. It was all around that safety piece for me. Mm-hmm. Um, as a high achiever.

[00:15:22] Mm-hmm. I often thought that if I didn’t achieve something, it didn’t do it the way that everyone else did it, then I’m gonna be punished. I’m gonna be punished. Or not doing it the right way. Um, and so I thought I could just think my way through it. Let’s think, think, think. Yeah. But I couldn’t. And so when I gave myself permission to try something new, let’s just see what meditation feels like for a little bit.

[00:15:50] And I just grew and grew and grew around grounding techniques that I learned through trauma that really helped me to self-soothe, soothe the part of me. That wanted, wanted more, but felt like she wasn’t allowed it. 

[00:16:07] Jamie: Mm. 

[00:16:09] Lauree: Yeah. And that, that definitely just came from my childhood and, and, and there’s a lot of almost locked beliefs.

[00:16:15] Locked beliefs, yeah. That I’ve finally been able to just crack open a little bit at a time. But high achievers, worst nightmare. I have to be patient.

[00:16:28] No.

[00:16:31] What do you mean? I have to feel my way through this? Or I have to try something new? It’s, yeah. It’s an awful feeling for a high achiever who just wants to have the thought, get a new thought, try it on, make it work magically get to the finish line. 

[00:16:46] Jamie: Trek through 

[00:16:47] Lauree: was not, was not my journey. And it’s rush.

[00:16:50] Well, 

[00:16:50] Jamie: how did you do 

[00:16:51] Lauree: it? Yeah. Frustrating. When I see other people just taking a thought and run with it, I’m like, why? Why not me? Yeah. But this has been the most beautiful part of the journey is, um, unlocking. Unlocking more of who I am. ’cause I think if I had a rush past it, I would’ve missed all the good parts, which feel like, ugh, when you’re in them.

[00:17:16] Jamie: Yes. 

[00:17:16] Lauree: But I have so much more, um, I have so much more appreciation, I suppose, for the journey now that I’ve kind of, I feel like I’ve popped through the other side because of what I learned. And you can’t rush that. 

[00:17:32] Jamie: Wow. That’s, 

[00:17:34] Lauree: yeah, 

[00:17:35] Jamie: I think that right there is just so powerful because probably every single listener I know, I have a lot of high achievers listening.

[00:17:44] They’re like, why is this taking so long? It can, when we’re in it, it feels like it’s taking forever. And you stuck with it, Lord. I mean, and this is what’s wild. It’s like, it feels like forever. But look at how much your life has changed in 10 years. Like 10 years is not that long to go from bankruptcy to millionaire, to go from where you were to completely not drinking anymore, having this amazing, um.

[00:18:08] Um, well-paid career, you know, with the life that you have with your husband and the business that you have and you being able to help. I mean, 10 years, it’s like, that’s massive. Talk about like an entire transformation, but what I’m curious about for those that are also feeling so impatient, and I know a lot of people feel that around business because.

[00:18:35] Business can be built on a pile of fails. It can feel like you’re just failing, failing, failing, failing forward, learning from it, working through it, and then all of a sudden. Hey, how did I get here? 10 years. Wait, this happened. Oh my gosh. When you really look back. So how do you practice patience as 

[00:18:53] Lauree: a late achieve?

[00:18:54] Oh, oh, oh. Good question. My goodness. I don’t even where to answer that one. Oh, how do you practice patience? Hmm. I think patients. It’s like boring. It’s the emotion of boring. So I remember, I think it might’ve been Brooke Castillo said, your thought is your bored is not a, is not a feeling. It’s a thought.

[00:19:21] And I’m like, oh, I think patience is exactly the same. Like, you know, like, I’m trying to get there faster, but I’m feeling impatient. But yeah, I think it’s almost the same as boring when we can learn to almost be a friend of boredom, of patience, um, and recognize where we are trying to run past it. I’m a runner.

[00:19:45] I’m a runner. I’ve always been a runner, so slowing down hasn’t, hasn’t always come naturally. And that’s, again, that’s where grounding tools come into play. When I turn inward versus trying to race to the finish line, that’s when I get the most magic happen. 

[00:20:03] Jamie: Wow. Yeah. Yeah. That’s awesome. So good. And, and you’ve obviously mastered that even though it’s still not uncom, it’s still not comfortable through this journey, you’ve obviously, you’ve had to master it if you were willing to keep going.

[00:20:17] So I think that’s really the key is like. It’s almost like patience is your superpower. Learning to feel patient, even though there’s a big part of you that’s impatient, but learning to be with that part of you. But continue slowing down, continue taking the smaller steps, continue continuing to ease your way into it.

[00:20:37] That’s your superpower, is learning to hold space for that. So I think that’s huge and I think that could be something for everyone to hear because what if learning to. Slow down and learning to be with impatience is actually the key to speeding up. It’s like you said, look at what you’ve gained in such a short amount of time, and this is something I used to always think is like the fastest way to speed, or sorry, the fastest way to speed up, 

[00:21:06] Lauree: yeah.

[00:21:06] Jamie: Is to slow down, which sounds wild, but it’s true. It’s true. You’re gonna grow the 

[00:21:12] Lauree: most. I remember two or three years ago, two or three years ago, when Brooke was still doing her. Her life, her podcast, she had one about, um, about boredom, and it was, it was a practice learning to sit with boredom and, you know, it was like putting your, putting your timer on for five minutes.

[00:21:30] Yeah, and literally doing nothing. Turning all your notifications on and not responding to anything. So you had to, you know, just look around and just be with yourself for five minutes. I remember timing myself and getting to about one, and noticing I wanted to get up and get a glass of water. I wanted to go to the toilet, or I wanted to, oh, I’m hungry.

[00:21:51] And so that was a, that was such a good practice for me. Um. To learn how to slow down was just in these little one minute, well they were five minute bursts she taught. But even if I could get to a minute and then a minute and a half and then two and then stretch that out and ev and eventually that’s now I, now I do meditation, well, not meditation rotation, but like breath work.

[00:22:16] I can do that for an hour 20 and feel like I’ve been in there for five minutes. 

[00:22:21] Jamie: Oh my gosh, amazing. Yeah. 

[00:22:23] Lauree: And you teach 

[00:22:23] Jamie: it too now, right? 

[00:22:27] Lauree: So when, when they say, 

[00:22:28] Jamie: amazing, this, this is gonna be a practice, I wanna give my impatient clients.

[00:22:37] I know they won’t, but guess what? Look at who they can become by, by doing it, it can be like, Lori Arnold, I didn’t, sorry. You say 

[00:22:43] Lauree: right Jamie. Like, it’s just a practice. So we have to have that beginner’s mindset. Um, and you taught me this right at the very beginning of certification. It’s like high achievers just wanna like, I wanna achieve, I wanna like make Jamie proud and I wanna make my mom proud and I wanna make everyone else proud.

[00:23:00] But the reality is like all of our power lies in that beginner’s mindset. All of it does. And so learning to slow down is no different than learning to drive. Yes.

[00:23:13] Jamie: So good. So good. I wanna talk a little bit about the identity shifts and the way that you’ve shifted your relationship with money. So how would you say your relationship with receiving changed? Did it? 

[00:23:25] Lauree: A hundred percent. Um, I had this. I mean, I did this visualization maybe three, four years ago, and he talked about when imagine yourself and your favorite place and imagine money’s sitting next to you or lying next to you.

[00:23:41] And my, I was on a beach. Money was this massive, huge, giant like. I was this little person in my visualization and money was just this massive, massive giant. It was really dark. It was really big. It was really heavy. It almost felt like it was a real big bully. And so my relationship with money felt like that.

[00:24:01] It felt like there was no possible way I could ever meet money. It was always going to be big. So I gave it a lot of weight. Um, and so that the identity that I had to unlock there was. Not giving power, uh, so much power to money and unlocking the success. Uh, money equals success. And I know we coached a lot on that is every time I had money issues it was always because I was linking it to success.

[00:24:30] And if I didn’t have money and I wasn’t success, then that meant, um, I wasn’t worthy. It came down to that worthiness piece. Mm. And yes. So how do you see it now? Oh, yeah. Tell me, me and money we played.

[00:24:49] Oh, tell me more. I think interesting enough, when, when I visualize money now, it’s not so much that it’s, it’s a, it’s a. It’s someone else. It’s actually my inner child and it’s my, my two inner children, one’s seven years old and one’s 15 years old. These are my, whenever I, I feel attached to them or when I, whenever I feel connected to them.

[00:25:13] I feel that my money always feels better. It always feels more playful, and it’s like we do it together. And so money for me is no longer, it doesn’t feel external Money for me shows up in experiences that I have now. So it’s less, yeah, it’s less. It’s less the thing, and it’s like the experience of it. So I think.

[00:25:40] Jamie: So tell me. Yeah. Can 

[00:25:41] Lauree: you describe, I feel like, describe, feel like it’s a value. It’s a value that I hold now versus the attachment to, let’s say, let’s say it’s a trip. It’s not the attachment to the trip, it’s the value that that experience is gonna create for me. 

[00:25:57] Jamie: Ooh. So is it different in the way that you focus on it or the way that you experience it while you’re 

[00:26:02] Lauree: in it, or, I think it comes to the way that I hold it.

[00:26:07] Jamie: Yeah, 

[00:26:07] Lauree: so I think that’s the, probably the, the first part of it is the holding it and then the value of, I think receiving it. It’s the receiving part back when I, when I value it and it comes back to me and the receiving of it feels really loving and it feels really beautiful. It was very abundant. 

[00:26:28] Jamie: Yeah.

[00:26:29] Yeah. 

[00:26:30] Lauree: Yeah. I wanna say that’s what it feels like almost this beautiful like wave or this beautiful cocoon type feeling.

[00:26:39] Jamie: So have you let go of the 

[00:26:41] Lauree: idea that it equals your worth? I notice it’s still come up and I think it, it may always write, it may always come up, but I notice it as it’s very quiet now and I have the ability. I have more awareness around it, so I I’m able to redirect it. Yeah. I’m able to notice when I’m trying to tell myself that if I don’t do this thing, that means that I’ve failed and I’m not successful and I can just redirect a lot quicker.

[00:27:10] So it’s still there. It’s like it’s no friend. It just keeps coming up, you know, like, okay, come on, come to the rides. Thanks for coming. Thanks for the reminder. But get in the backseat. Buckle in. We are gone. 

[00:27:24] Jamie: Now is that, do you think that’s how you transmuted that shift from Money is money and success equals my self worth into money is a value.

[00:27:34] Right. It’s like less attached. It’s more playful. Would you say the way that you’ve made that shift is through. Like you said, it’s like an old friend or I’m holding space. It sounds like you hold, hold space for that part of you that believed that your self-worth was attached to it, or was there something you let go of, like how did you release that is what I’m asking.

[00:28:00] Lauree: I, I feel like it was letting go, letting, letting go of a belief, letting go of. I think expectation that I’d had from childhood, you know, and just hearing that voice of my mother in behind saying, saying, you know, the things that she would say. And I, I think a lot of that was just letting that go and reminding my inner child that that’s just not true.

[00:28:31] Like, we’re all good. We are safe. It’s not true anymore. Or it, and, and allowing her story still to, to drop in. Yeah, but just not letting it get any, go any further with it and just reminding us that, yeah, we, we don’t have to believe that anymore. 

[00:28:53] Jamie: I love that. I love that. What did you reprogram your brain to believe?

[00:28:57] What did you decide on purpose, you wanted to believe and what did you choose? And really, where are you at now? 

[00:29:04] Lauree: So I’m in this era at the moment called, I’m calling it my investor era. She’s very wise, and I think, oh my gosh, if my past I’ve had like heard, heard me speaking right now, she’d be laughing at her going, what?

[00:29:19] You’re not invested. I’m ridiculous. Um, but I, for me, the, the belief that had to shift was why not me? I believed, I, I don’t think I ever believed it or actually hoped. And I still notice it in myself. It’s like I’ve just got to a million dollars and I can feel my high achiever pushing it down. Like that’s not that big of a deal.

[00:29:44] Like no one really cares. It’s not $5 million, it’s not $10 million. And so I have to really redirect that, you know, that part of me that wants to downplay it by, obviously by celebrating it and recognizing how far we have actually. 

[00:30:04] Jamie: Yep. 

[00:30:05] Lauree: Yeah. Um, and then, yeah, why, why not me? Why, why can’t I earn $5 million?

[00:30:10] Why can’t, what, what’s, why, why not? I, I love how you always say, you know, when I dropped a, when I, when I was birthed into this world, I was not stamped with a not worthy sign.

[00:30:24] Jamie: Yeah. Yeah. A hundred percent. So good. You said your mom or? Yeah. You took on some conditioning around. Wealthy people are what? Wealthy. Filthy. 

[00:30:35] Lauree: Rich. Rich. 

[00:30:39] Jamie: Filthy rich. Okay. And, and what do you believe now about rich people? 

[00:30:45] Lauree: What do I believe now? Ooh, haven’t actually thought about that. Rich people. Um, I think rich people.

[00:30:52] I don’t have victim mentality. I think rich people think differently. I think ri rich people mm-hmm. Take Courages action. I think rich people are willing to fail more than a lot of other people. I think rich people have more fun. Um, yeah, I think those are my new beliefs is that. Rich is fun. Rich is playful.

[00:31:23] Rich is experimenting. Rich is, is is. Okay. There’s nothing wrong with being rich. 

[00:31:36] Jamie: Yeah. Mic drop. I love these. 

[00:31:42] Lauree: Never actually thought about that question before, so that’s even quite surprising for me. 

[00:31:47] Jamie: Yeah. Well, you’ve. The, the reason I ask is you’ve obviously reprogrammed that by being in this investor era and being able to receive what you have, you’ve let go of that conditioning that it’s like filthy rich and you know, because you, the protector part wouldn’t let yourself receive what you have without shifting that.

[00:32:11] Yeah. So it’s fun to play with and see what’s in there. I love the new, I love the new program, so.

[00:32:19] Yeah. So I have one kind of final question that I know people will probably be at. Well, I might have more, but we’ll see. Um, I definitely want to ask you, you know, a lot of people who struggle with debt kind of don’t know how to get out of that mentality. And you obviously have, right? So what was it that allowed you not to go back into debt after the bankruptcy?

[00:32:46] Because a lot of people file for bankruptcy and then they go right back into their old ways. How did you do that Without, or maybe you did feel completely restricted, but a lot of people are like, oh, if I, if I’m gonna get outta debt, I’m gonna feel restricted. I don’t even know how to do it without it.

[00:33:04] Can you share more on what you shifted to be able to stay out? 

[00:33:08] Lauree: I think when I did my timeline and I really looked back, the thing that stood out the most for me was when I learn more, I earn more. When I think about my process for how I got out of debt, every time I learned something new, um, it, it almost translated into.

[00:33:33] Income. So it was like whenever I grew, so did my, so my capacity grew, which means our cup grows, which means we can fill it more, right? We can fill it with obviously with, well hopefully money, but we can fill it with new things. And I even was listening to Jim Rohn, you know, the Godfather of development, where he talks about, where he talks about the.

[00:33:56] The best skill we could ever have is the one in developing ourselves. I could probably hash, you know, made a hash of that, but something around Yep. Um, you know, change and not chance. So we have to learn more skills if we want to grow as a person. And I think every time I focused on changing me. Focusing on what my patterns were, what my, like, getting really good awareness around what my patterns were.

[00:34:26] That was how I was able to then go, oh, great. I know what my pattern is now. Now what do I, now, what do I wanna do about it? What do I need to learn? Who needs to help me with that? Who do I need to be around? Um, and of course that beginner’s mindset of, you know what I, I dunno what I dunno, until I know it.

[00:34:47] And right now I know that I’ve got a pattern of behavior that keeps pulling me back and I need to figure it out. And I think that’s the thought is I need to figure this out. Yeah. 

[00:34:56] Jamie: Yep. So good. So good. Oh my God, I have never heard that. And it was such a truth bomb. Like I felt that like as Oprah would say, aha moment of like, when I learn more, I earn more.

[00:35:07] Oh my gosh. I love that as a mantra, because I think that could be such good advice for the person who feels really stuck. Right? Who feels like. I’ve been dealing with this forever. It’s like maybe the recipe is like just deciding to have a beginner’s mind with it. Decide that you don’t know what you don’t know yet.

[00:35:28] An opportunity is to learn. What can you learn? Right. I think that’s so magical. I’m gonna take that volume 

[00:35:38] Lauree: factor. You gotta be careful though, because a high achiever will go learn more. Let’s go all the way down the rabbit hole and let’s learn more everything. 

[00:35:45] Jamie: Right? We’re not going to like every certification under the sun.

[00:35:48] So tell us, what would you, what would you suggest to the person who does feel stuck with that kind of mentality and idea? What would the, the true suggestion, not just like going and getting more certifications for the sake of like. Being a high achiever. 

[00:36:01] Lauree: Well, I think what was interesting, I, I was listening to you had a podcast the other day with Jermaine on it, and she talks about, and I, I forget this from coaching, right?

[00:36:08] Is having a protocol, so it’s learning something and then yeah, having a boundary around that and having a protocol, how much am I going to learn? And then the most important step is always the implementation. And I think you teach and manifestation, you know? What if the implementation part is taking courageous action, what’s one thing that I can do to make the situation better?

[00:36:31] What’s one thing I can learn? Who’s one person that can help me do this? And now that we’ve got ai, like we can even, you know, it wasn’t like 16 years ago. Well, I could just Google, give me five strategies for, you know, learning or earning or what. Like now we have access, we can ask amazing questions. We can.

[00:36:52] And get amazing results back from ai. Um, I’ll preface that while I was like, obviously get a coach, because that’s what, that’s what blew my world open. It started with Brooke Castillo, that it was you and then it was Lindsay, and then I, you know, all the other coaches that have followed, I have learned so much from every single one of them.

[00:37:13] And. And that has made the difference like it felt at the time. It just felt slow and and clunky, and I didn’t really know where it was going. I just knew that. I, I wanted to, I had a very clear vision of I just don’t wanna be stuck in this mess, and I do wanna learn how to manifest better things for my life.

[00:37:32] Um, I had to just take that messy, messy, courageous action and just keep putting one foot in front of the other. Um, and that identity piece of who am I becoming every year? Who am I becoming? What’s my, what’s my. Key word for the year. What’s my key mission? What’s my, what’s my song of the year? What’s my, you know, what’s my Ballard for the year?

[00:37:54] Who am I gonna be with this? 

[00:37:56] Jamie: Yep. 

[00:37:57] Lauree: Um, and really, yeah, every time is, yeah, thinking about our future self, um, and not being pulled back by the past and by what, you know, what you were taught and, um, getting caught in those behavior patterns. I definitely think that’s, you know, you’ve got so many resources now to be able to get unstuck or get yourself out.

[00:38:17] Um, it’s not, not allowing our brain to get on this tangent of I don’t know how, because then we lose all our creativity and we lose all our inspiration and our motivation and our possibility. Right. 

[00:38:32] Jamie: Totally. Yep. And isn’t that what it’s about? It’s just learning, growing, evolving, who you’re becoming. Like you said, if it didn’t happen in that way, like you wouldn’t have stepped into the authenticity that you’re in now.

[00:38:48] Like it would not be as rich, so, 

[00:38:50] Lauree: and I know that’s so 

[00:38:51] Jamie: amazing. 

[00:38:51] Lauree: No, we talk about quantum leaping and. I remember being in it, like trying to quantum leap like I was, you know, like trying to physically leap. It sounds ridiculous, but 

[00:39:04] Jamie: Yep. Force yourself into 

[00:39:07] Lauree: it. I’m like, no, come on. Where’s this leap coming from?

[00:39:09] Where is it? Where is it? But it’s so funny when you look back and you just have to laugh at yourself, otherwise you’d cry. Um, is, it did feel really, really slow for ages, but. But it’s like the last 18 months. I just feel the more work, the more of that inner work that I did, the, it’s getting quicker and quicker every time now.

[00:39:30] So, and that’s because my brain’s on board. Yeah. My protectors aren’t protecting the heck out of me. Yeah. The parts of me, I’m, I’m learning to work with them rather than against them. Um. It. It’s just the last 18 months in particular. The last two years has really just gone Whew. Like a massive, massive curve.

[00:39:50] Yeah, a little bit like compounding interest. You can’t see it at the beginning. You know, when you’ve put your a thousand dollars in, you get, like, it feels tiny, but if, if you were to wait 10 years or 20 years to see what the compounding effect of that is, it does it like it shoots up. I think it’s the same as the inner work.

[00:40:07] It’s the same as self-development. The more you know, if you keep on top of it and just keep chipp away every year you do get the compound effect of all of that knowledge, all of the people that you’ve learn from, all of the, um, skills that you’ve learnt. Just keep. Opening you up like I hands down, would not have got my current full-time role in my career, wouldn’t I would not have got this role if it wasn’t for all the other work that I had put into myself.

[00:40:38] And the certifications and the messiness. And the ugliness. The ugly crying. Crying, and all the coaches I hands down would not. Be the same person I would. I would probably not have what I’ve got. Yeah. Or maybe I would, but it would just would’ve taken me another 10 years to get there. 

[00:40:57] Jamie: I know, and you know, when we’re in it, it’s so hard to believe that that’s gonna happen in the future because it just feels sometimes so messy, so slow in the moments or in the season or we’re, you know, setting goals and maybe not reaching ’em and it can.

[00:41:11] Feel so hard, but that foundational work is so necessary. That’s why I think it’s so powerful to have a coach because they can hold your hand through it. They know it, right? When someone else knows, okay, we’re in the foundational phase. This is the building, and it will happen. And it, it’s, that’s why that saying occurs overnight success, 10 years in the making because it really is the compound effect of all that foundational.

[00:41:35] Work that you do and just showing up even when you don’t see the results happening or when it’s not happening as fast as your ego wants it. So Laura, you’re such an inspiration. Thank you so much for being here and for sharing your story. And you know, I love you so much and I am just so grateful you’re in my world and that you were my first my student and then I’ve gotten to coach you and just watch you just grow in such a massive way and become, and.

[00:42:05] I just love you. Thank 

[00:42:06] Lauree: you. I love you too. Right back. My 

[00:42:08] Jamie: favorite 

[00:42:08] Lauree: person in the whole wide world.

[00:42:13] Let’s do the next 10 years 

[00:42:14] Jamie: together. We were on. Yeah, I was just gonna say, okay, whenever I interview, interview you in 10 years. What are you gonna be like, oh my God, I can’t even believe. What do you think that might look like? Like what would be a dream come true if we were to just think like, what? 

[00:42:29] Lauree: Oh my gosh.

[00:42:30] Well, I’m kind of living my dream life at the moment with all this traveling that I’m doing. So I definitely want to have, you know, I would love to see $10 million in my bank, um, travel left, right, and center like. Oh, where should we go? Let’s go visit Jamie in Maui. Like, um, yeah, yeah, please. I see for myself.

[00:42:52] Uh, you know, uh, I do, I do have a million dollar business coaching business, you know, empowerment business. I, I wanna be helping people. That’s, I know that’s what I’m destined to do. You know, I know that I’ve been through what I’ve been through yes, to, to have the experience, to have the stories that I can share with other people.

[00:43:10] Um, I wouldn’t have been put in coach land if I wasn’t supposed to be a coach. So, so I, I wanna use all of that and, um. Yeah, I see. Helping people, bringing people together. Lots of monies, lots of abundance, lots of traveling. I see all those things, right? Yeah. And more healing for myself, um, and for the people around me.

[00:43:32] So, yeah, I, that’s what I, I visualize. It’s not really specific, but I, I kind of know. I know where I’m going. 

[00:43:38] Jamie: Yep. We’re putting it out there. It’s done. It is done. I can’t wait to listen in 10 years and we’ll be like, oh my gosh. That’s all I was asking for. 

[00:43:47] Lauree: It’s so true. 

[00:43:49] Jamie: That totally happened 

[00:43:50] Lauree: two years ago.

[00:43:51] It’s so true. I think 10 years ago I was just asking not to be in debt, and now I’m like, what? I should have just asked for more. 

[00:43:59] Jamie: Yeah. I love it so much. Amazing. 

[00:44:02] Lauree: Thank you for 

[00:44:03] Jamie: being here.