About the episode:
I’m excited to bring another live coaching episode to you this week! My client, JD, joins me on the show to talk about creating BIG money and some of the feelings and obstacles that have come up for him around that. Like many people, JD wrestles with the thought of being able to have it all (without feeling guilt). We talk through that along with the importance of setting a specific money goal to take clear action on creating the life you desire. I’ve worked with JD for a little over a year now and it’s been amazing to see how far he’s come while believing that this is just the beginning for him!
Topics discussed:
- The impact our younger selves have on the beliefs we hold as adults, even around money
- Struggling with not being not wealthy, but still feeling as if there’s a gap to where you want to be financially
- Getting stuck on the how of creating money and my suggestions for overcoming it
- Focusing on the freedom that money can provide rather than the amount of money itself
- Allowing yourself to believe that you’re allowed to have it all – an incredible life and the money that comes with it
- Why setting a specific money goal is necessary in moving past uncomfort and into action
Resources:
Jamie Berman: [00:00:00] Hi, JD. Hello. What would you like some coaching on today?
JD: Uh, it’s has to do with our monthly topic, big money, and, uh, I’m not really sure exactly how to say it, but, um, growing up when I was young, I always envisioned envisioned just being. Uber rich, um, with my friends, like we just all did. And, uh, it, it wasn’t like, you know, hard or weird or how it was just like, this is just, what’s going to happen, obviously.
JD: And, uh, and then I did grow up and I’ve lost that for sure. Um, it may have been my experience working, you know, at a bank, which could perhaps be described as maybe soul crushing or something like that. Yeah. And, um. And realizing that like a salary is, is fairly fixed and is not uber wealthy. [00:01:00] Um, but since then I, uh, I don’t work at the bank anymore and my income’s gone up a bunch and I’m a lot happier in that way and logically I don’t feel any.
JD: to receiving just gobs and gobs of, of increase and, and of money and wealth and whatnot. Yeah. I don’t feel not wealthy, but I still feel a really large gap between like that. That, um, just feeling inside that I used to have about just believing that I was going to be, that I just would have more money than, than could make sense.
JD: And now, now, when I think of, oh, I’m going to be really rich, it’s like, well. Maybe I’ll make like 200 or 300, 000 or something like that. And really that’s not that much compared to what’s available. So does that make
Jamie Berman: sense? Yes. A hundred percent. And I just love this because I really think like [00:02:00] our younger selves just know.
Jamie Berman: So it’s like your younger self already had a relationship with your future self, right? So like. It knew what was, you knew what was coming, and that’s super fun. That’s not gone, but something happened in your mind that made you kind of lose faith in it. So you open to looking at that? Yeah, you bet. Okay.
Jamie Berman: Yeah. So you said maybe it was from working at a bank. Can you think of like, okay, when, Like I would look back at what age were you whenever you were like, I know it’s unlimited i’m gonna make so much money What
JD: age was that? Yeah, i’d probably i’d probably say all the way through high school and it wasn’t until I actually Got like a full time job after college, but I realized, and I was also married at that time.
JD: And so I realized like, well, the paycheck is, I can’t do anything to make this paycheck bigger. And it’s like, if I stick [00:03:00] with where I am now, it’s going to like, I could see, I could go from here to here, you know? And what I wanted was, was way up there, but like, it just was already predestined. Um, Right up through, up until that first job probably.
JD: Okay, yep. I feel like I had that still.
Jamie Berman: So what was the belief that you had before that job, up through high school, the end of high school, about money, and what was possible?
JD: I remember just feeling like, That I was just going to have it like, yeah, I didn’t know how and I didn’t know why except that I wanted it.
JD: But it just seemed like, you know, I, I knew that there were very wealthy people that existed and I just was like, I’m just going to be one of them. I just, I just felt like that’s just what was going to happen.
Jamie Berman: And then once you took that full time job and got married, what belief did you start believing at that point?
Jamie Berman: [00:04:00] that time? What new belief entered your mind that you started believing that kind of got in the way of you thinking that was possible for you anymore?
JD: I think what it was was that in that time the current reality really just kind of educated me and I was like, oh, wait a second. Like, obviously what I was doing wasn’t it.
JD: And I didn’t see how it, it, it became almost, uh, Like I almost at that point there had to be, I had to figure out how to do it instead of just believing that it would happen. It’s like, all right, well, I, I, I started doing things. I’m in the, I’m in the how phase now, and it’s not it. Like this is not it. And so if this isn’t it, like, what am I supposed to do?
JD: How am I supposed to like, and then it’s like, maybe that, maybe that’s not real. You know, because I don’t know what to do to make it happen. Yeah. And out of all of the different options. And I had some friends that were more [00:05:00] successful than I was, but even they were still in the same position where like they were getting this and they could see, you know, five years later I’ll be getting this.
JD: And yeah, that’s not very much difference. And like, yeah, the how really got in the way for me, I think. Yeah.
Jamie Berman: And it’s almost like what happened to it. Sounds like when you were, you know, in your teen years younger, and then all through your teen years, you didn’t let your current circumstances dictate what was possible for you.
Jamie Berman: Yeah. Right. Cause like as a teen, you probably didn’t know how the heck you would do it. You know, it’s not like you had the exact how in front of you, you weren’t like, Oh, this is exactly how it’s going to happen right here, right now. So I’m, I can believe it. But like you got into the workforce and also, So many people do this.
Jamie Berman: So it’s very, very common for our brain to do this where we’re like, oh, this is my current reality. This is my current circumstance. And we allow [00:06:00] that to dictate what we believe is possible for us, for our lives, and then we start getting stuck into the how.
JD: Yeah. Does that resonate? It It resonates. Yeah.
Jamie Berman: Yeah. Why do you think you did that?
JD: I didn’t know any better . Yeah, right. I, uh, yeah, totally. Yeah. I didn’t, I didn’t know any better and I don’t know, um, I, well I’ve, I’ve been in your program for almost a year now. Yeah. I think next month is is a year. Yeah. And, uh, it’s really helped me to reframe and to like understand and open up things a lot more than before, but even leading up to this.
JD: In the last three years of being, uh, and running my own business and helping Crystal run her business, it’s really expanded my. Just everything a lot, but at at that point like nobody teaches anything like you teach Right.
Jamie Berman: Yeah, totally [00:07:00] Yes. Yeah, so helpful to know like you just learned that you picked that up, but it’s like you carried it on past that career So tell me a little bit about where you are now, now that you are an entrepreneur and there really aren’t limits.
JD: Yeah. Um, well, we’re making more money, which is great. Yeah. And even it’s, it’s interesting too, because when I was a teen, I felt like Like that money was what I wanted. It was just so important and like I wanted to have gobs of money because I wanted gobs of money. Yeah, but now I’ve learned that money isn’t actually that important, but being able to be free and to do the things that I want, that’s what’s important and money enables that and my life has changed so much now compared to what it was five years ago and [00:08:00] Um, I do the things that I want now and I have the time that I want and we have more money.
JD: And really like my life has changed so much and it’s really amazing and I’m just full of gratitude for everything that I have and how we get to live now. Um, and I realized like I still, I still would love to have more money and, and sometimes I, as I think about this and try and internalize myself, maybe where a stumbling block could be.
JD: Sometimes I feel like maybe I. I reached this level where I am now and it’s hard to see what, you know, what’s the next step. And instead of trying to just figure that next step out, I realized, well, I’ve got enough. Like I’ve already, I’m already just so much better than before. Like, why not just maybe this is enough and I’m good here and I can just stay here
Jamie Berman: forever.
Jamie Berman: Yes. Totally. A hundred percent. Yeah. Yeah. I know we can get into, and like. [00:09:00] I know that’s very common where we’re like, well, I shouldn’t want more. My life is amazing now, but I’m curious, like the teenage you, who was so connected to that dream of having gobs of money and it was just very freeing. How do you feel?
Jamie Berman: Now with your vision that you shared with me of like money isn’t actually that important But being free is and money is just like gonna be a part of that Does that feel as? Open and as good as The vision that you had as a teenager
JD: on the scale of like good better and best It would be a good and not a best.
JD: Okay, you know, it isn’t as you know, just exciting and as energetic and liberating as You know, my views back then, um, it’s, it’s still good and it’s great, but it isn’t, it’s just, it’s not as much and it’s just a little bit different. [00:10:00]
Jamie Berman: Yeah. I almost wonder if there’s a part of you that based upon conditioning and what you maybe grew up learning or what you picked up is almost like taking on some beliefs that’s not allowing you to want what you actually want.
Jamie Berman: Like, do you actually want gobs of
JD: money? Yeah, I, I do. I mean, I, yeah, I feel like I do. And those, it’s still strange though, because even like, those gobs of money, it’s, it’s a lot less. Fewer gobs than it was back then. Yeah. But, but I think that that’s fine, because, you know, I don’t, I’m, I’m not in my mind, like, holding on to a vision of just having this, like, just loads and loads, like.
JD: Hundreds of millions of dollars like that. And that’s what I was as a teenager is like, yeah, hundreds of millions. But now, um, it’s weird when you put numbers to [00:11:00] it because those like, even now I see, like, if I was just had millions of dollars, like that would be just, you know, the equivalent of what. You know, the, the, uh, the real life or the mature equivalent of that boyhood dream, you know, that’s, that’s how I see it now.
JD: Um, yeah. And going through and referencing back, I guess, just to the work that, uh, that I’ve done going through your course and the workbook and everything. So many times I’ve come, I was to the point going through those exercises where I’ve like, I honestly feel like I have everything in life that I want except for money.
JD: Like, and, and at that point, I’m like, but do I need money just for the sake of money? Like, if I have all of these other things, and a lot of times with my peers, they’ll, I’ll see that, you know, some of them have lots of money, [00:12:00] but they don’t have these other things in life. And I’m like, well, I already feel really great about those other areas that they’re looking for.
JD: And, and so I don’t know, it’s, it’s, it’s kind of been strange to me where I feel like my life has really developed and been fulfilled in almost every area except the money area. Yeah. And I used to think that the money area is what would like fuel and like you need like the money would come first and it would bring all of these other things up.
JD: Right. Yes. But I feel like somehow, without the money, I got all of these other things and the money’s still lagging behind and I’m like, It’s part of me, like you said, and I think it is because of the conditioning of, you know, going through being employed and the jobs that I had any of that money, really big money isn’t just something that anybody can have, um, or that it’s really hard to get.
JD: But if a sub part of me feels like with everything else that I [00:13:00] value up so high, do I. Is it, is it wrong? Or do I even, should I focus on trying to, to bring the money up to that level that I kind of also wanted?
Jamie Berman: Right. So I think this is, cause it’s almost like your brain, it’s like, well, can I have it all?
Jamie Berman: Right? Like I have enough here. There’s so much goodness that is it even okay to want here? Yeah. But like, why can’t you have it all? Why not have the incredible life that you have created? And the money.
JD: Yeah. And, and that’s a question that I’ve had a bunch, Crystal and I have talked about that. And logically, there’s no reason, there’s no, there’s no answer to that, to, to say no, they’re just, it doesn’t make any sense in any of the different things that I believe, but there’s still a small belief that’s holding it back.
Jamie Berman: [00:14:00] Yeah, well, I think that the dissonance, I mean, I, I heard it loud and clear, so I know what the competing intentions are for you, right, which is that, like, Your belief about money is like, it’s not that important. So I always think about money is like an energy, and it totally responds to what we believe about it.
Jamie Berman: So if we’re telling money it’s not that important, What do you think money does? Like imagine that was like a relationship that you were in, right? If you were like crystal, you’re not that important. Like it’s crystal going to want to like hang around you and like, come, you know, be around you as much as possible.
Jamie Berman: Probably not. Right. So your belief, it’s not that important. And, you know, and I think that’s the belief that’s creating this dissonance for you and my hunch is that it’s coming from this place of like. And, and I don’t know, but we, we can explore it, but there might be some kind of belief of like, [00:15:00] can I have it all?
Jamie Berman: Or is it okay to want money? What does that mean about me? Maybe you’ve learned something about money that it’s not great to want it and that it’s much more important to want other things. But I don’t think it’s one or the other.
JD: Yeah. I’ve, I’ve tried to go down that rabbit hole myself and I think what it comes down to is Is me, you know, deciding that it’s not so important and not so much like, what would it mean about me and, and those types of questions of like, of having it, but, um, I really do feel like I’ve.
JD: In my attempts to, um, I guess just progress individually and, you know, be happy with what I have and go after the things that I’ve want a lot of what I’ve done [00:16:00] is, is just, you know, um, decide that money isn’t important. Like it’s, and in part of trying to like, not worry about money and I don’t, you know, I don’t worry about money.
JD: Uh, and that’s something that I’ve been fortunate not to have done for a long time. Yeah. Um, and part of my like, you know, being free spending it and, you know, I, I, I don’t know who I heard this from, but, um, you talk about it as an energy and I’ve heard people talk about it as just like a flow and it, you know, it comes in and it goes out and you should be free to let it leave just as you are free to let it enter.
JD: And I think in my effort to really internalize that, what I’ve kind of done is just decide that it’s kind of, it’s not important, so it’s fine for it to leave. And I don’t have to worry about it. And instead of maybe placing it somewhere else in, You know, [00:17:00] I, I’ve placed it as not important and it’s been able to fit in that bucket of all those things and allow me to just not think about it because I’ve maybe, and I should have probably, instead of saying it’s not important, done something else with it, you know, put it somewhere else in my belief spectrum or whatnots.
JD: Um, but I, I think that’s probably where the issue is.
Jamie Berman: That makes so much sense. And I actually think it’s like, it was perfect to evolve you to where you are now with it and create the relationship with money that you have, because when we place too much importance on something, then we’re attached to it.
Jamie Berman: Right. So like, but you went to the opposite of like, instead of placing so much importance on it, let me just like, make it not important. Which has served you, right? It’s allowed you to stop worrying about it, allowed you to stop making it mean anything. Amazing. But I think now what we’re uncovering is just like, okay, to take you to that next level of your evolution around money.
Jamie Berman: That may not be the belief that’s going to serve you [00:18:00] because it’s really not, not attracting money.
JD: Yeah. No, I think that makes a lot of sense and I like the way that you say that because it doesn’t make me feel bad about it. Because that belief, it really has served me well. To bring me to where I’m at and to help me past all of the money baggage that I, uh, was beaten into me through my employment and whatnot.
JD: 100%. I do need to pivot from that to move forward.
Jamie Berman: Yeah. So I’m curious, if you were to think of it as a relationship that you want to have in your life, one that’s just loving, like, or I want to know, what kind of relationship do you want to have with money? Like, if you were to think of it as a relationship that’s in your life, from an intentional place, what would be amazing?
JD: Um, I was reviewing the, uh, my notes from the workbook of going through your program before this. I was like, this will help me come up with something to get coached on, hopefully. [00:19:00] And one of the things that I really liked is I compared money to air where it’s just always around me and I don’t think about it.
JD: And when I go to breathe in, it’s there and it fills me and I breathe it out without needing to hold onto it. And I’m not sure what that type of a relationship is. Air is very important. For sure. Yeah. Um, but that’s what I’d like. I, I don’t want money to be a focus in my life. I don’t want it to be a burden.
JD: I just want it to always be there to be flowing into me, to be able to use it, to be able to give it, to be able to spend it and not to worry about it.
Jamie Berman: Yeah, so what’s different about your relationship with air than what your relationship to money has been because I think that’s brilliant.
JD: Yeah. What’s different?
JD: I guess, well, [00:20:00] the first thing that comes to my mind is like air is just, it’s always there. It’s, it’s it’s
JD: like, whereas money hasn’t always been there. And, you know, I’ve had to. I’ve had to definitely, you know, do things to, and work and in the way that I spend it. And, um, money’s a complicated thing. You know, in the world that we live in, money’s very complicated. So I’ve had to do a lot of work to uncomplicated it and to get it to the point where it is now.
JD: Um, I would, it might be like kind of a, You know, a cheater type of an answer, but it seems like if money was just always around me, like areas that, you know, that that’s what would make the relationship the same, but there’s, there’s gotta be something, you know, the presence of it can’t be what. What makes the change because the [00:21:00] change has to happen in order for that presence to actually manifest itself.
Jamie Berman: Yes. Yes, right Yeah, because you’re not like looking for evidence that air is here, right? You’re not like wait, is there enough air? Is there enough air? That’s not where your brain is. What’s your brain thinking with air?
JD: It’s not thinking about it. It’s just Breathing it’s telling my body to use it
Jamie Berman: Yeah Yes.
Jamie Berman: Yes. Is there anything in the way of you believing that about money?
JD: Only my thoughts.
Jamie Berman: Always. Right?
JD: Yeah. Um, I mean, I couldn’t put my finger on anything except the fact that, you know, it’s, I’ve, I’ve learned a lot over the last couple years, especially this year that, you know, my thoughts about money and about anything really changed the [00:22:00] reality that, you know, Exists around that thing, so.
JD: Mm hmm.
Jamie Berman: Yes. Yes. Yeah. So, you know, o oftentimes it, our brain will go to, well, the reason that I can’t believe that it’s all around is just because I have evidence that it’s not, but I think a really powerful thing that you could do is start looking for evidence of how it, it’s, how is it already like air, like how is it already always there for you?
JD: Well, I mean, it’s, it’s never not been there for me. Yeah, whenever we’ve really needed it, it’s always been there and, um, it’s, I mean, we’re making more of it now than we ever have before in our life and lots of, you know, [00:23:00] great things have been happening about it. It’s, it’s only in the moments of, it’s only in the moments of, uh, looking in your bank account after you just spent a whole bunch of it on something, you know, that’s important that you wanted to spend it on, but it’s like, Now, a big chunk of it just left, and so now, it’s like, okay, well, in that moment, that’s when, you know, things like doubt or, or question might come in, uh, but, um.
JD: That’s good to recognize, because we can It’s really, it’s really just in a, in a very small time frame, like if you just look in Yeah. If you look through tunnel vision. That’s when I it seems like it’s easy to have doubts and to have problems or to I guess falter in your in the The belief paradigm.
Jamie Berman: Yeah, so in those moments It’s so helpful to identify like oh when I don’t actually believe that it’s always there for me and always around me To actually identify those moments so that you can [00:24:00] come up with a new action plan of your like I know this month We’ve been talking about big money behaviors Um, which by the way, you know, if you’re, if you’re not in my program, we had big money month.
Jamie Berman: So that’s what JD is referring to August and moving into September. We’re doing big money 2. 0. So that’s what we’re talking about here. Um, but yeah, we talked about big money behavior. So I think it can be really helpful to think about, okay, in those moments where I do start to go into doubt tip, like that’s what my unintentional brain has done.
Jamie Berman: What would it be like if I had the relationship with money that I. I’m cultivating in that moment, right? So like, if for example, you just exhaled a bunch of air, what would your thought be?
JD: There wouldn’t be a thought. I would just breathe it back in.
Jamie Berman: Yes, yes. So, what’s your belief whenever you let go of a big chunk of money?
JD: Um,[00:25:00]
JD: well, my belief should be that… What, yeah, what is the unintentional? The mortgage is coming in. What’s the unintentional? The unintentional belief is, is, is going to either question if it was the right thing to do. Yeah. Question if it’s going to return more back to me, um, question if I’ll get any value from spending it.
JD: Yes.
Jamie Berman: Yes. So helpful to like recognize that that’s what the unintentional brain might want to do, but you can already start reprogramming this by almost like. Visualizing that moment and like what is my new relationship like? How do I feel? If I really do truly believe that money is like air and when I exhale, just have to inhale, right?
Jamie Berman: It’s going to come, there’s air around to come back. Like what would be different? [00:26:00] If you were to kind of visualize you having, being the person that has that new relationship with money in that moment, after you’ve like, made a payment.
JD: Yeah. Um, I think one thing that would be different is, like, my thoughts wouldn’t be distracted by it.
JD: Yeah. And it wouldn’t be something that, um, as a non issue. I would just continue on in, you know, whatever, um, excitement and energy that I was moving forward with, you know, and, and whenever a lot of money is spent, you know, it’s for something and that’s something, you know, has been decided that it’s, that it’s going to be a good something, otherwise you wouldn’t have spent it.
JD: And so it would have the, um, there would just be more of a, I guess, uh, a better progression of, you know, [00:27:00] positive energy or energetic excitement about, about that, you know, those, those types of beliefs that come up, they only ever interfere with whatever’s going on, you know, regardless of what, what it is, you know, they, they just interfere.
JD: And so even just getting rid of that interference, it would just make. Everything better. Yes.
Jamie Berman: So good. So good. So that’s something that you can actually visualize ahead of time and then practice it when you’re in those moments. Like just getting really clear on that new relationship with money that you want to have and starting to practice it in your day to day life.
Jamie Berman: But I also wonder if there’s an opportunity, because I think that’s going to help you just develop this very neutral relationship with money. But in terms of allowing it to grow in the way you want it to, I wonder if there’s like a belief there that you could maybe [00:28:00] step into that allows you to create and build like more.
JD: Yeah, I’m sure there is. Um,
JD: I think just the belief that more, more money is always coming. Yeah. I mean, you, you never see it coming. It just shows up. Yeah. And, and so, I mean, there could be, there could be an email in my inbox right now with somebody that wants to give me a bunch of money. Right. So I, I think just really holding onto the belief that more is coming and, and that belief can be You know, supported it with the evidence of all of the money that has come.
JD: You know, it’s, it’s not an unreasonable belief at all to think that more is coming. Yes.
Jamie Berman: Do you have a money goal? [00:29:00]
JD: Um, not really. Okay. Yeah. So the, uh, the, the manifest, the things that I have, um, am working on manifesting this year are, I guess, sort of, um, but they’re more, um, other things like in my Kajabi affiliate business to get to 200 referrals.
JD: Yeah. You know, there, I could have, I guess said that in a dollar amount, you know, figure out what the dollar amount was, but I. It’s that. And, um, I want to buy a cyber truck when they’re available. When Tesla finally decides to make them. And so it’s more theme type, uh, things than, than actual money amounts.
JD: But yeah.
Jamie Berman: Yeah. I, that might be something. And I mean, just to think about a money goal might be something that could really help, um, I think help clean up any of these beliefs of like… Around like [00:30:00] the part of you that’s not really letting yourself want more money or cleaning up this part of you That’s telling yourself money isn’t that important or has been yeah and almost looking at like what’s in the way of creating a money goal Why wouldn’t
JD: I?
JD: Yeah, it’s been it’s been a lot easier for me to create goals and to work on achieving things that Aren’t as concrete, I guess, as, as like achieving this much or, you know, say, you know, making, you know, 350, 000 in my business next year. Um, B and instead I’ve, I’ve focused a lot more on more subjective things, like happiness and things like that, because, um, I don’t know, it, [00:31:00] it’s almost like if I put a really.
JD: And I do, you know, 200 people is very measurable compared to what I’m at now. But it’s, um, when it’s so objective or when it’s so easily measured. Yeah, then it just requires a lot more faith. I think like it’s just a bit scarier. Okay Oh, it’s so easy to measure.
Jamie Berman: So it’s scarier to set a money goal
JD: That’s a really good way of saying that really long explanation that I just stumbled through.
JD: Yeah
Jamie Berman: then I think I Think it might be A great opportunity for you because really it’s no like the process of creating 200 people and you’re a Kajabi affiliate program or a cyber truck. There’s really no difference in the process of those versus money, but your brain thinks it’s different and it thinks it’s harder and thinks, I don’t know if it’s [00:32:00] harder necessarily, but it thinks it’s different.
Jamie Berman: Scarier, maybe harder. Maybe you think you’ll put pressure on. I don’t know exactly what’s coming up, but I think there’s an opportunity to clean that stuff up. To clean all that stuff up. If you set a money goal, it’s going to like let all of that rise to the surface, that is probably what’s getting in the way of you, like really getting back to that teenage dream of like letting yourself really want the money that you’re going to have in your lifetime because you saw it as a teenager.
Jamie Berman: Yeah. You’re going to have it, but you’re just going to have to clean up this parts of you that thinks that manifesting money is different than manifesting 200 people or a Tesla cyber
JD: truck. Right. Yeah. No, that makes sense. Thoughts on that? You’re right, Jamie.
Jamie Berman: I think that might be the next bit of work. And of course we can work together on it since you know, you’re still in the program and everything. I think [00:33:00] that’s going to allow you to because you do already have a great relationship with money And I think stepping into that money is like air and making it where it’s not not important, but it’s not important That’s going to be amazing for like how you feel around money But if you really want to grow it I think there’s just some work and some uncovering of like your beliefs about what it takes to make money is going to be so powerful
JD: Yeah, no, I think that’s good.
JD: And I I do think focusing on that will do Will expose a lot of things and that’s those those things that I just naturally have a difficult time trying to point Find pinpoint them myself. I think that’ll be a good thing because those are probably what’s in the
Jamie Berman: way Do you want to set a money goal in here and declare it so that we can celebrate next year?
JD: What it would be that
JD: Just lots Lots. I Yeah, I [00:34:00] shoot. I don’t even know There’s, when you said that, like a number didn’t even come into my mind, I feel like I’ve really suppressed the idea that I need to have an amount, like, I don’t want, like, and I’ve talked about this with Crystal and she’s like, well, how much do you want in your bank account?
JD: And I was like, honestly, I don’t care if there’s anything in the bank account. I just want more to always be coming in. Like, I, there’s not a number that’s really what the amount is. I just want it to always be filling up, you know? And so I really, like, developed that type of an idea. Yep. Um, so I, I can’t just spit a number out right now, but that would be fine.
JD: Yeah.
Jamie Berman: Do you want that? I mean, and, and it, it’s okay if you want that to be a relationship where there’s always enough. But I would just explore, is that what I actually ultimately want if I can have anything and I can have it all? Like, is that what I want? Or would I actually want to like… Be able to set an income goal and achieve it without working more hours by [00:35:00] really working on my mindset and Doing the same things that i’m doing to manifest this cyber truck like yeah You can explore like if you could have that would you want it?
Jamie Berman: And if the answer’s no, it’s totally fine. You get to have whatever relationship with money you want.
JD: Yeah Yeah, no, that’s, that’s right. Um, well, I’ve got some great things to, to work with now.
Jamie Berman: Yes. You totally do. And I’m looking forward to hearing more. Thanks so much, JD.
JD: This was awesome. Yeah, it was. Thank you, Jamie.
JD: Yep.
Jamie Berman: All right. Amazing. Thanks so much, JD. That was so good.
JD: Thank you.