Taking Courageous Action with Haley AKA @TheOrgasmBabe

Jamie: Hi everyone. I have a super special guest this episode that I’m so excited to introduce you to. I actually just met her recently. She became a new client, but oh my gosh, have I been inspired by her? And I asked her to come on and share her story. So I have hails the orgasm babe herself here live with me.

To share just her story, to share what she does, and to share the embodiment of A principle that I teach over and over, but I think it’s one of those that it is for so many people so much harder to actually live and implement and bring into their lives than we realize, right? It’s one of those that like, it takes so much courage to practice [00:01:00] this one foundation of manifestation and hails.

incredible. She is an example of this. Her coming to the retreat this past month was an example of this. And that’s why I wanted to have her come on and unpack how she did it, unpack her thinking. And the concept really is that I’m always teaching is how to not let your circumstances dictate what’s possible for you, right?

How to not get bogged down with your current circumstances, or even if you do get bogged down by them, how to not Act from that place, how to create a vision that’s beyond it and take action in a way that’s beyond that. And Hills shared her story at the retreat, which this was just two, three weeks ago.

It’s our first time meeting. And I think she had everyone at the retreat in tears. We were all just so inspired. So I’m like, Haley, I got to get you on the podcast. So here is Haley. Can you please [00:02:00] introduce yourself? Let us know a little bit about you and what you do. And then we want to dive into your thoughts.

Haley: Yes, absolutely. So Hey everybody, I’m Hales, the orgasm babe. I am the orgasm coach who likes to, which we will dig plenty into about energy. And I really think too, like you were talking about how a lot of what you teach is this, and it’s the hardest thing manifesting and working on the energy for basically the sex life that you want, because I focus on working with women.

With their sexual energy and not just sex tips. The sex tips are fun, the sex tips are great, and we definitely go there, but it ends up not being about the orgasm, right? Just like it’s not always about the money, it is about the woman creating the orgasm, just like it’s about the woman and the person who is creating the money.

So that is the essence of what I do, and it’s so much fun. That is 

Jamie: amazing. And I feel like everyone’s gonna wanna learn all the [00:03:00] things and all about that. That is. It’s incredible. I love it so much and we, yeah, we just met, I mean, you might’ve met me like through my posts or my events before this, but we just met in person and actually got in contact for the first time, just like three weeks ago at our new year’s manifestation retreat where Haley came to.

You know, it was one of those things where I think a lot of people think, Oh, well, when it’s easy for me to make an investment like that in myself, or when it makes sense, then I’ll invest, then I’ll go, then I’ll do the thing, but for you, right, given your circumstances at the time where you were thinking about coming.

It didn’t totally make logical sense that this should be the next step for you, right? Are you open to sharing a little bit more about where you were at before the retreat? What it was that sparked your interest, [00:04:00] why maybe some people would say it doesn’t make logical sense to do that, and how you overcame that.

I know that was a lot of questions, but 

Haley: No, it was, well, if I need any help, I’ll just ask you again, where should I take this next? But, um, yes, I’m, I mean, I’m a sex coach. I’m open to sharing everything and anything, so let’s get into all the dirty details. So, yeah, it didn’t make, even as you were saying that, even for me, myself, I was getting emotional hearing that because it still feels like an out of body experience because, you know, we kind of have that liminal space where we don’t really see ourselves as a certain person, but we’re still taking the action and it’s like, we really are and it’s just this crazy experience.

So for me to hear that, it’s like, holy shit, like I did that and like, I can do that. And I’m capable of that. It’s just so cool. And so I’m just adding that just so that people know that there’s still like, I’m not up here being like some like, maybe it was just like, Oh, this is just easy. And I’m [00:05:00] doing this, you know, right along with the context of what you were saying with a lot of people are like, Oh, well, it’s easy if you have the ability to invest or you have the resources to invest.

But. Yeah, taking it back to the beginning of before the retreat. So before the retreat, I had already been kind of doing the same kind of taking a lot like illogical action considering my circumstances. I was, I had a baby in October. I decided to go ahead and file for divorce during that postpartum stage within being a month and not only during postpartum with being in like a month or two of postpartum, but also right around the holidays in the middle of that.

So none of that made sense. And, um, and then as I was going through that, It was that same kind of energy that I had when I knew the retreat was coming. Now, when you had first talked about the retreat [00:06:00] and kind of put it out there, I instantly knew it was something I wanted to be at because as I knew that I wanted to be taking this quantum leap and becoming someone different because even my divorce, that’s something that I have been wanting to take action on for so long, but whoever feels ready to Take action on a divorce.

That’s scary. No matter what you are, you know, like how much happier you think or how good you’re like this This is a good decision. People don’t even need to be sorry for me. This is for the best It doesn’t matter. That’s such a scary process, especially since let’s add to the illogic If that’s is that even a word?

I’m not sure but Pretty sure people understand what I’m saying is that we’ll 

Jamie: just say it is 

Haley: Logic we’re adding this to the illogic, but I was a stay at home mom Like I hadn’t been coaching or working or making money in a good year and a half and even before that fall of 2022 was when I kind of started my coaching and massage [00:07:00] both and making m lasted for fall of 22 bec pregnant and very sick an everything.

I couldn’t, I not work because I was th single day. So I have not making money. So it’s not Own business account of mine that had a cushion to leave the marriage was like, I’ll stay at home. Mom. No money of my own quotes, of course, around that and going through a divorce being newly postpartum, which means having a new baby.

And, but it’s like, I knew that, like, when I said these things that I wanted, there’s a lot of them that I waited for so long. I have just come to a point now where nothing is optional anymore. I am not playing small. And even using that phrase sounds so understated. It’s just I, and this is like what I work with the women that I do the work with and what the, like the kind of change I want to make in their lives too, [00:08:00] is putting themselves first as a woman before they’re labeled as a mom, before they’re labeled as a wife, before anything, and being willing to say like, I’m worth it because my worth isn’t actually even In the equation, but I’m worth it to go ahead and invest in myself and not only that, but invest in myself that helps me go after the dreams and desires that I want to go after.

And so then I knew the retreat was coming up. And of course, like I said, when I first saw that you posted it and like told everyone that you were hosting it, I thought, man, I would really love to go over there. But like, probably I won’t, but at the same time it was like this deep knowing of like, I know that I want to go and I’m meant to be there.

And as the time got closer, I was just like, I’m going and I’m going to just figure it out. And no, it didn’t make sense with a baby and no money. And I could have been spending money and I had moved out of the house or marital home and moving in with my parents. It’s, and [00:09:00] again, you know, there wasn’t even the child support yet or anything of that, like that’s still something we’re working through.

So it wasn’t like I got half of the assets of our house and had all this money, but I’m like, I know that if I want to get to where I’m going and the vision that I have for myself, it’s not going to happen by me waiting. Like I’m not just gonna like get there or wait and when I’m like, this happens now, she happens now, she knows what she’s going to do now and she would be going to the treat even if she has all this money and has the million dollar business and full clients and making a huge impact.

It’s like, I want her to happen now and be here now. So I’m willing to. to make it work. And of course, you and I talked beforehand and I kind of told you what was going on and you just had such belief in me, even though I went about paying for it, like paying full price, but paying for it slightly differently, like you created enough space for me and belief, but also like held that sort of like I can up [00:10:00] level and rise up through the discomfort of taking the action and just making it happen.

Yeah. Thank you. And I totally did. And it was also, it was funny because when I first got to the resort and my card wasn’t working for like my stay there, it wasn’t working. I’m like, you have got to be kidding me. And it was almost like the universe was just like. saying like, here, practice this again. Who are you going to be?

How can you show up to make this happen instead of sleep under a palm tree and not make this mean something about you? Because of course I just wanted to make it mean everything about me. Like, yep, I’m helpless. Yep. I need help again from somebody else. And I went, but I used the whole, I was like, no, there’s money literally all around me.

I’ve got money. I’ve got tons of cash in my, like. In my wallet, I’ve got cash, I’ve got cards, I’ve, like, I, like, my outfit is so much money, there’s places, there’s money, I literally have money everywhere, it’s just not on the right card. And it’s super late at night and I can’t transfer over, so I ended up figuring things out and [00:11:00] I got it and it’s just all these different experiences that made me have to, like, up level and rise up is exactly why I left the retreat.

Again, you asked me a lot of questions, so you’re going to have to ask me anything specific. But that is the huge reason why I was able to just keep practicing that discomfort and leaning in and taking that leap of faith. Because like you always talk about where it’s not about waiting and being ready for anything, anything.

Was it the call we did that you did yesterday, the open coaching, that anything epic that you’ve created was always done before you were ready? And so that is like, I’ve made myself addicted to that feeling now of like doing it before I’m ready. Not from like an irresponsible place of like, well, I just need all this different stuff to me.

Like, otherwise I won’t be great without it. It’s like, no, from this embodied, grounded, I trust myself. It [00:12:00] is scary. And I know this is exactly where I need to go next in order to get where I’m going. 

Jamie: Oh my gosh. Hails. Oh my God. I have tears in my eyes. It’s just like to witness your power as unbelievable.

What? Yeah, 

Haley: sometimes it’s just like I said, even me overhearing it and saying it, it’s like, especially, of course, the only thing I didn’t bring to my table right now is tissues, but to look at who I was five years, like even a couple of years ago, but five years ago and 10 years ago. It just like, I’m, even though like here I am living back with my parents at 28 years old with three kids and going through a divorce, like I was telling my sisters the other day when I was like moving my stuff around in my room.

I’m like, I had started having flashbacks of like being on the phone with an ex boyfriend that I dated in high school. I’m like, wow, at that point, I sure never [00:13:00] imagined being here at 10 years. You know, when you graduate your senior year, they’re like, where do you see yourself in 10 years? And they put it in the newspaper articles like not here.

Not here, but also like at the same time, like I’m also not making this mean everything. I’m like, at the same time, this is so powerful, me powerful for me again. to do because I’m still trusting in myself and still choosing myself. Like I could say, I’m just going to stay in my cozy little place where I’m, I’m married and I’ve got beautiful kids and a husband who makes a lot of money and he just hands over the card.

But no, I left, I don’t have the marital home. I’m moving back in with my parents. I don’t have any child support yet or any assets. Like I have no money technically, but it’s like here I still am. And I’m just like, Wow, I am so proud of who I have become and I remember on the way home from the retreat too, when we were, I was writing down some of my power thoughts, um, one of them, you know, like you [00:14:00] had kind of triggered this on the podcast that you did about them, but just like, I love my life, but I felt that in my bones.

I was like, I, and so that’s one of my power thoughts I look at every day now was it’s a little bit longer than just, I love my life, but it’s like, I love my life. I really love my life and everything I’ve done for myself. I just. I really love my life. Oh 

Jamie: my God. I’m going to cry this whole episode. I’m just thinking about this, and I’m thinking about not only the gift that you’re giving to yourself through all this courage, but like also what you’re giving to your kids as an example.

This is not what most kids see, you know, and I’m crying because it’s not what I saw. And this is why I’ve had to do so much work around money because. So much of my childhood was, unfortunately, my mom staying small, staying in situations that were really unhealthy, toxic, right? Because she [00:15:00] didn’t believe in her own power.

She didn’t believe she could create money. She believed she had to be with a man to have money, right? And so, situation after situation, it was just And it was literally, I’m like, man, if my mom only had had that one thought of like, I have power, you know, and it doesn’t look like it. Right. Just like you, it’s like, it doesn’t make sense.

Right. I don’t have assets. I don’t have money. Right. But it’s like. When you take that courageous action and you just go before you’re ready, the universe provides a net, right? It’s like the universe provides a net and you’ve been seeing this over and over. It’s like you didn’t have the money to go to the retreat, but you decided to ahead of time.

I’m just wondering, like, how did that happen? Were you actually, what was your thought process? Was it, I’m going to create it? Was it, I’m just 

Haley: curious. Well, first I started by figuring out how do I have money around me right now? [00:16:00] Like where do I actually have money? Because again, like I could have cried too, just like listening to you say, like, there are so many different episodes that could come out of everything that’s being said.

That could be to doubt. Don’t get too deeper. But one of the things that I remember thinking was like, I, in my marriage and again, like It’s not that I want to talk bad about my husband or talk bad or like make anyone look a certain way, but just as facts lay for me. In my marriage, I never felt as an equal and the money was never mine, which, yes, the money was never mine as a feeling, but it’s also a reason that assets and child support isn’t split.

I still get along, I still care about him, but there’s a reason because his mindset is also, I’m not an equal. It doesn’t belong to me. And so I decided to start changing that. In that moment, I’m like, I want to go. There is no reason I can’t. And instead of looking at all the reasons why I shouldn’t, I started looking for every single reason on why the fuck I should.[00:17:00] 

This is why I should go. Because this money is mine here. I do have this money. He was going to be leaving for a seven day Texas trip to hunt wild hogs two weeks after I was going to be going to the, or a week after I was going to be getting back from the retreat. And so I’m like, well, he’s going and he’s using our money to go on that.

So why should I not have that? And so what I did was again, looking at all the reasons and then I decided I’m also, which I had told like YouTube before, um. When I said I want to come and I was thinking of ways that I could make money like I know how to do massages so I can start doing it because that was a really hard thing too was my baby was only a month and a half when I, well, he was really like a month and a half when I started thinking about this and thinking about really deciding to go and so to start jumping back into working and trying to figure out babysitting and making money, there was like all these things.

And so I was like, well, I know I can do massages and cause that’s what something I was doing beforehand. [00:18:00] And I know I can do that. And so I thought of ways to make money and thought of ways, like, how do I have like money resources for right now? And at first I thought of like my parents, my parents happy to give me money.

So I thought about asking my mom and so I just, and cause that’s something too, right? It’s not just about creating the money directly. It’s also about receiving. Resources that you have and that’s super uncomfortable. And I could have made that mean so much about me. And again, in the whole, like I really need this help and I’m just helpless.

And people always have to help me out. But I was like, no, I’m going to invest in the support for myself as a postpartum woman. Who’s also going to make total bank as I go and be a millionaire and make so much money that. I will just pay them back in huge amounts, even if they don’t ask me, and spoil the shit out of them.

So, I remember I told my mom, and she was like, Oh yeah, sure, we can do that tomorrow. I’m like, no, we didn’t need to do this, like, now. Like, I’m ready now, we need to do this now. And so, I didn’t feel like talking to her about it again. [00:19:00] And so then, I just had the thought of, like, my brother. And just saying, and just seeing if it, so he had like walked in at that time, like we’re like to the house and stopped in to say hi.

And I was like, Hey, can I use your, and I, and even the energy I did that from, I wasn’t like, Hey, so like, um, I’m wondering, I want to do this thing. I was like, Hey, I’m wondering, can I borrow your card for something? And then I will pay you back with it. And he literally whipped it out. He didn’t ask me how much, nothing.

He just laid it down. He’s like, sure. And then he walked out of the house and left. Like he didn’t even wait for me to give the card back and it’s like I made sure to celebrate that and take that because it would have been a completely different situation if I would have shown up in a different energy on that.

Right. But I was just like, Hey, like this is so chill. Like, of course I’m going to be paying you back. And so it builds that trust. And he’s just like, yeah, sure, whatever. And so I did that. And then I started making money and already started paying him back. [00:20:00] And I was just like paid him back right away. And it came so fast.

And so it was like just having that trust that I can make things. Happen. And then Alsoso was like, both right, I can make things happen and I can create money and at the same time I can receive 

Jamie: support. And I was able to go . Oh my gosh. Incredible. And that is an example of resourcefulness, right? This is the example.

What I really, I, you know, consistently working on helping people tap into is their resourcefulness. While it doesn’t seem like circumstances are aligned with it, it’s like, like you said, money is everywhere. Resources are everywhere. And we are going to see what we look for. If you look for how you can’t afford it, if you look for how it won’t work, if you look for how it’s going to be really hard, you will absolutely find that.

But if you say, how could I make it happen? How could I make it work? Even if it doesn’t [00:21:00] seem like it makes sense, there’s no way you won’t find a solution. And that’s what you did. It’s incredible. And then I’m curious, what was the effect of that? Like when you actually came to the retreat. What happened?

Like, you know what I mean? Like, I want to hear 

Haley: your story. Oh, yes. Like, I can just feel it all washing over me right now. Something I need to put in here right now is everybody listening, go to every retreat. Make it happen. You, I will from now on be at every single retreat, like it is part of my business plan and part of like my own life plan, whatever you want to call it, to every six months I’m at a retreat, whether it’s yours or it’s somebody else’s.

I mean, I’m going to be at every single one of yours specifically, but even adding on top of that, like I just need to be one every six months. But anyway, so getting there. Like I said, it up leveled me so much. As soon as I, so like [00:22:00] you, I’m from the Midwest and I’m in a very small town and very small minded.

And I’ve always noticed that as soon as I kind of get out of the house thing, like my mind or even if it’s just an hour away into the city of Sioux Falls. My mind already is able to expand and I feel more aligned with myself and but just that plane ride on the way I, it just, I could like, I can feel the feeling now.

It’s just like this overall vibration that just starts happening and energy that I can feel in my body. And I literally was looking out the window and I, the thought came into my head. Things are changing, things are happening. And then I get there. And they, again, I had like my little issues there and then I couldn’t find my bungalow.

I was like walking in the dark in the middle of the night, trying to find my bungalow. And so that was really pissing me off. But then like once I got in, you know, I resettled and everything. And then the next day came and that day was just so amazing. And honestly, the first day too, though, which I [00:23:00] think a lot of people experience this is by the end of that first day, I was almost drained.

Because there was so much emotion and at first, cause it was like amazing at the first part of the day and then towards the end of the day, I was like, wow. But the reason I felt that is because there was so much deep change happening. Yeah. And so that first night. Um, I don’t remember if I went out to eat or not.

I think I did end up going out to eat, but I like definitely chilled for a bit. I was like, I need a moment because this was like, cause even after eating, I could have gone back and like, I was like, Oh, I’m, you know, so inspired for so many podcast episodes and posts and blah, blah, blah. But I was like, I need to just decompress and that mix of having that big day.

And then having that rest the next day I woke up and I was like. I am the orgasm, babe. I am the orgasm coach. I am amazing. I like, it was just like, I could just feel it. Like it [00:24:00] no longer was like, cause I remember even when some of the different exercises we went through, I remember just kind of being in that liminal space of like, this feels really uncomfortable.

I don’t know. And can I really do this? And it just felt like, Ooh. And that next day it was like, Oh, bitch, please. No, like this is just like who I am. It’s so simple. And I think everybody felt that there. I mean, especially when we did like the very, like the end, like the ending ceremony or whatever we called it.

Everyone was just like, yeah, like, this is just why I am now. Like, we just kept saying that, like, I’m so and so and I’m this and I’m that, and I’m a celebrity and I’m the orgasm babe. And I’m a rich single mom’s woman. All these things. It was just it’s. So cool. And also what I loved being there like it, it was so powerful.

It didn’t matter if we were doing an actual activity of highest vision or going through the journal, or if we were doing hot seat coaching, or if we were standing around the bonfire together at night. [00:25:00] Just chitchatting every single thing. Like I have chills right now thinking about it. Every single thing was so impactful and powerful because you are practicing and seeing yourself as your highest version and vision in that moment.

So like, yep, I’m this person who makes a million dollars just standing around the fireplace visiting with all these amazing women. And it just becomes, makes it be so normal. And then also hearing about everyone’s, you know. When we were talking at the Bonfair about everyone’s past stuff that they’ve done in the past, we’re all laughing about that everything, like, oh, look at me, this was like my first course, and look at me this long ago, and like, bring it up all the pictures and different things, and it It makes you believe more in what you can do because we look at you now and we look at every other woman who is there now having 50k months and 30k months and doing all this stuff and they started out with these crazy courses where we’re like did you actually sell that?

[00:26:00] Like you got people to buy that shit? You put that on out into the public. Okay? But it really, it like brings us together more and we can say Oh, well, I know I’ve had embarrassing moments. I know I felt stupid doing this stuff, or I feel small, or I don’t, didn’t get a lot of likes on this, or like nobody’s listening to me.

I have crickets and whatnot. So did you, Jamie? So did every other woman there. And now look at what they’re doing because they keep going and they keep putting themselves first. And like, that’s my thing now is to just let these happen like faster and faster and closer together and keep feeling that discomfort.

And there’s always new, like. I don’t necessarily feel really powerful every day in the moment, like, every single day. I still have this doubt, like, can I really do this? Here I am, I’m in my old bedroom, and and it doesn’t feel it, but I still keep moving through it, and there’s levels that I have to keep Going through like even now again, like my business that I have rebranded and reopened and re coming out like [00:27:00] coming out as the, I mean, people know in the past that I’ve always had something to do with pelvic health and sexual health, but to decide being the orgasm, babe, and even letting my vision board sit out on my nightstand and having like my mom walk in and my sister walk in and my brother walk in and my brother grabbed it.

And he was like, okay. The orgasm babe. And I was like, yeah. And even in that moment, you know, it’s like, I’m like, that’s another opportunity to let that watch over me and then decide this is still why, no matter what you think or what anybody else thinks. Yeah. Like that’s super vulnerable and, but it just builds my ability to have confidence and courage.

in myself. And even though I don’t feel powerful every moment, it’s like, no, we keep bringing it closer and closer. And that like, even in my own business, it’s like, I compare it to the orgasms, right? When someone’s like doesn’t have the orgasms very often and they’re not very intense and they’re like trying and trying and trying to get them.

And it just doesn’t happen. It’s like, that’s what we’re going to [00:28:00] create for you sex specifically. But then also just like the climax is in life because the climax is when you look at it, as far as someone’s story, it’s the turning point of someone’s. of a story. And so it’s like, you’re coming and we’re going to do basically, yeah, we’re doing orgasm coaching, but we’re also doing climax coaching.

Cause again, it’s about the woman creating the orgasms, a woman who was asking for what she wants and that ripple effects into the rest of her life. And we’re going to do the same thing where all the climaxes are closer and closer, more intense, more close, like closer together, all the things. And then we just like, yeah, it’s just the whole quantum leap and the manifestation and like the best.

most mind blowing ways. Oh 

Jamie: my gosh, did you decide I’m not at the retreat then? Oh my God. I thought that you always were like, no, I didn’t realize it was like a retreat insight. 

Haley: All of it was [00:29:00] just because I was able to step into, into who I was and who I really wanted to be. And that’s another thing that is so powerful as far as my sex coaching, but then just in general for women is to be able to declare your desires, which we did and did a lot of talking about at the retreat of like being willing to have a safe space to say first, this is my desire.

And everyone hold that for you. And then you can feel safe, step into that. And then you can go and bring that out in the world to say, this is my desire. And then that’s when it starts happening faster and faster because you keep aligning with it more and more. Right. And so having that space to really feel safe to express that, but then.

When that safety is there, I have the creativity as well. Because for a long time, I did, like, I struggled a long time with my niche because one, I knew I wanted to be closely on set, but I’m in the Midwest, the town I live in has 1500 people actually just went down 300 people. They redid the population sign.

Like [00:30:00] the mindset around here is no. And all the people from like, well, I went to high school with, which that was a bad experience. Like I don’t even go into the town anymore. So it’s like, but all these people could see me on Facebook. They’ll know what I do. They’re, it just, it’s scary and it’s super vulnerable.

And again, a reason I do this and I’m so passionate about sex. Is because I have a lot of experience with myself, so it’s already vulnerable enough But now people are gonna be learning through my story that means I’m putting it out in public like talk about another thing of being like uncomfortable and but I Struggled a long time with my niche and I kind of just like well we’re just focusing on pelvic floor because that’s more scientific and I never really knew what I was doing and But being able again to be in that space at the retreat, it was like the creativity and the stepping.

I’m like, Nope, I’m the orgasm, babe. And this is what I’m really doing. Cause again, I’m like, well, I don’t know what I’m really doing because it’s a little bit of both. It’s not just, I’m not just giving sex tips. I am because that’s so fun to talk about and to do. But at the same time, [00:31:00] it’s like, I’m also all about having a woman remember who the hell she is and push boundaries and push past this past discomfort and challenge ideas and challenge things.

Like when I picture. the woman from beginning to end. I’m not just picturing her having orgasms all the time. Like woohoo. Like that’s great. But I picture her, her posture is different. She’s different. She’s showing up different and deciding what she wants and going after it and making it happen. And so all at the retreat, all that was able to come up and I’ve just been rolling with it since.

And there have been nights where I go to bed. I’m like, I don’t know if I’m doing this. But then I wake up and I’m like, no, this is just so aligned. And I just love it so much. 

Jamie: Well, I just thought that’s who you were. Like, that’s just how I see it. Right. Like I had no idea it was brand new. Right. That’s amazing.

And it makes so much sense because it’s like, that’s the person you literally stepped in through into, through this process. Yes. Who the orgasm babe is and who [00:32:00] she’s for, right? It’s like you’re teaching women to be that person, whether it’s in the bedroom or outside of it, like you know, it’s just, it’s chilling.

It’s amazing. Did you, I’m just curious, did you have some sort of like after having the baby or. Was there something that kind of woke you up to this or is it something you’ve always been or was there a turning point? Because it just feels like the floodgates have opened and you’re like, no, I am not waiting for it.

Haley: Or like, is there something that happened? What inspired this? Okay, I’m super happy you asked that. So yes, turning points. I’ve had many turning points or climaxes that I like to say, right? So there’s been lots of things in my past that I have gone through that have been different smaller turning points.

And, but I didn’t fully take, [00:33:00] um, what do you want to call it? Advantage of the opportunity that was given to me, which totally a manifestation thing too, right? Like we can get slapped in the face with opportunities, but we don’t take that aligned action. It takes us a little bit longer to get there. And.

What happened was, actually, so, fall of 22. Um, or well, I guess like December of 22, things that happened in my marriage where at that point it was another point, which there had been many points, but there was another point where I was like, divorce is happening now. This is ridiculous. I’m not dealing with this anymore.

And then I found out a couple of weeks later I was pregnant again and I was like, you’ve got to be kidding me. Like, I’m not leaving now because I can’t even work and maybe this, and I used that against myself in the past when I had my other kids too. We had every, like every single time we had been on the verge of being like, or me getting the courage to leave and then I would be [00:34:00] pregnant and it was like, seriously.

And so then it would mess with my mind of like, well, does that mean I’m supposed to stay then? Is God telling me I have to stay, blah, blah. And when it happened this time, I just decided to let myself be and allow myself to rest during that and use that as time for clarity. Because I had already kind of done, like, I’ve been doing coaching for a long time as far as being the client.

And so I have Become to realize the value in resting and letting myself to gain clarity on stuff. And so instead of really forcing anything one way or another, I’m like, I’m just gonna let myself sit and think. And during the pregnancy, that time to rest so much clarity. I was like, I’m not gonna make this pregnancy mean I have to stay, and I’m not gonna make it mean I have to go either, but I’m gonna see what happens.

And so I let. That time, because again, I’m sick, I’m not working, I’m not doing anything and I just let myself connect with myself and what I want and what my desires are. [00:35:00] And I just like for a while when I was super, super sick, I remember my husband was saying, you know, I really think you should go back to being a stay at home mom.

Like don’t go back to coaching massages once we have the baby. And at the time when I was throwing up, I was like, that’s such a good idea. Like I’m so on for that. But at the time I was like sick. Then one day I woke up. And I wasn’t sick anymore, at least not to that extent. And suddenly, it was like I instantly hit every desire.

Like, I felt like me again, and I knew exactly what I wanted. But I had, like, let myself rest and allow myself to, like, receive that and let myself sit in that. And then from that point, because that was, like, six months into the pregnancy, and then I just kept letting myself feed that desire. And just really, like, Again, let myself come first because there’s things like I have become a different person throughout my marriage where I stood up for myself more, I didn’t take as much [00:36:00] crap, certainly, you know, like the dynamic definitely changed and I just let myself step into that more and keep trusting myself and say, you know what, because a lot of the things that people say, you know, I come from a very religious family, my parents totally supportive of my divorce, but extended family and grandparents and aunts, they think that the divorce is totally terrible.

Yeah. They think that it’s such a mistake and I just decided that, you know what, this, the mistake is not the divorce. The mistake was the marriage because I didn’t want it in the first place, but I was a young girl who thought that that was my only option. And I made that choice out of feeling. terrible unworthiness that this is all I could get again, not to say that my ex husband is this terrible person, but we are not meant for each other whatsoever.

And it was just in general, not the thing that I wanted to, but I thought I had to, I was guilty for having sex before marriage. I was feeling really unworthy. Like I made all these choices [00:37:00] from like out of a terrible reason to make a decision. And now it’s just, now I have the courage. to say, this is what I want.

And I really leaned into The reason of just because I want to, why do you want to get a divorce because I want to, why do you want to go to the retreat? Because I want to. And so it was just that time where I like really let myself and then because of that, yeah, things just, and then I noticed that as I was feeling better and then even after baby was born, there were a few of opportunities where I could have said, I’m done.

I’m done. This is it. And I still kind of noticed myself. But then one day I remember he asked me to wear my ring again and I put it on and I just felt like poison was coursing through my body. And I’m like, and I instantly was brought back to that 19 year old self of me who had that same feeling when I was saying, Yes, to dating him, being with him and continuing a relationship.

And I looked at the ring and like, I can’t do this to myself anymore. I’m not [00:38:00] doing it. And so I took the ring off and I just said, I’m done. And this is it. And had to lean into that discomfort and really be there for myself. My 19 year old self, my now me self, my future self, like every version of hails.

Needed to be held and supported in that moment. And so I don’t know if I fully answered your question, because again, I feel like there could be all things dissected, but really that was what it was. And then from that, like that, like those few things, but that moment where I was like, I just saw myself doing it.

I’m like, yep, I’m not doing it anymore. And I focused on the times that when I had changed, what was I doing? And I really just celebrated that. And then from then on, it was like. Being willing to have the courage, being willing to have the courage, being willing to have the courage, being willing to believe in myself because for God’s sakes, I have not believed in myself in so long that I could do anything, and it’s so sad, and when I like, look at it and think about it, so it’s [00:39:00] just like, me first, what I want, and I just am overthinking it’s selfish, too.

I’m just over it. 

Jamie: So. Oh my gosh. Incredible. I mean there is like so much wisdom in that. Uh. It’s just like there’s so many pieces I could pull from that that I want to talk about. I 

Haley: know. 

Jamie: I know. We’ll sum it up. So I think this is such an amazing example just from the start of like, The willingness to rest and those moments where you think you’re being pulled away and you’re like, I can’t do it.

Or let’s say you’re exhausted or there’s so much going on or even you have a lull in clients and it just seems like things aren’t picking up for a minute or you get pregnant or you’re sick, right? These moments that like, we feel like are out of our control, but are sometimes an opportunity from the universe to slow way.

Down. And when you give yourself totally actual permission to rest the clarity that can come from that, right? Because it’s just like, it lets, yes, everything [00:40:00] kind of settle so that you can see things so clearly, and had you not given that gift to yourself, you may not be here. And I. So many people, women specifically who resist when they have to rest, they resisted so much.

They’re not actually resting. Right. And so it’s like you can’t get the wisdom that can come from that. So that is amazing. And look what unfolded. And then I love this, like, just because I want to, 

Haley: and I want to, like, 

Jamie: give this gift that Hales gave to us to the listeners of, like, how, or just this question, I want to pose this question to you, like, how often do you, do you let yourself do something just because you want to, like, what if we let ourselves Have that gift, give ourselves permission to do that more often.

It’s like, look, what’s unfolded as an effect of that. You’re just like creating the life of your dreams. You’re becoming unstoppable. You’re creating [00:41:00] the business of your dreams. You’re, you know, it’s like, you’re just stepping into this powerful, powerful 

Haley: being. Yes. Yeah, for sure. Yeah. 

Jamie: So 

Haley: awesome. And if I could say one more thing, Oh, you can ask me.

Okay. All right. So one thing that I was going to say, yes, I was going to say that now I’m to the point where I’m not scared to do something. I’m scared if I don’t like you just got done saying like, I wouldn’t be here. I actually will have random times where I suddenly think, what if I wouldn’t have gone to the retreat?

And I instantly start having an actual panic attack. Because I think about like, if I had not gone to the retreat, oh my God, I would never have stepped into. I would have come back. Who knows? I probably would have been like feeling really subtly worthless and everything. And then just going back to my husband again and move back in.

Like there’s so many things. And that scares me to be that person where it’s like there, I don’t [00:42:00] regret anything anymore. And I look at it as like, how am I going to feel if I, not only if I do this, but if I really, if I don’t do this, How will I feel? And like, then it scares me. I’m like, Oh God, I figured out resource.

I need to make this happen. Whatever it is I’m doing. It needs to happen because yeah. And if anyone ever feels like they selfish is because they want to, I just, please hear this. It is not selfish. Again, earlier you talked about your mom and how she didn’t show this. That was something I said at the retreat too, that I want my girls.

To see. I don’t wanna be the mom who says you can do anything you want and you, you know, you put your mind and you believe it, you can create it. No, I want them to see it. They will see that I got on the plane, I did what was best for me in my marriage. Even though they might not be all about it right now, but one day they will see.

Yep. Mom put herself first. Mom put herself first. Otherwise, again, if we go back and say, I didn’t do this stuff, and decided to stay and go down that track for like [00:43:00] 10 years, how depressed. More depressed, really miserable and just like the life sucked out of me even more like no I’m gonna be able to give my girls everything and then they’re gonna know that they can give everything to themselves and Yeah, it’s just ah Yeah, it’s amazing 

Jamie: Example of what is possible hills I mean Thank you for being an inspiration.

And I’m just curious if you were to talk to either your past self, maybe right before you were thinking about the divorce and thinking about going to the retreat and you were probably scared, or if you were to think about talking to the listeners who are in a similar place where they’re on the cusp of wanting change and they have things that they want to do, but they’re just terrified of taking the leap, what advice would you give to them?

And I’m just curious, like, what’s unfolded, what kind of wisdom has unfolded, or what have you recognized [00:44:00] happens when you actually do take the leap? 

Haley: I think in a simple sentence, or like when you break it down, it’s you are so much more powerful. Then you realize yeah, and I know that’s kind of a fluffy saying and sometimes it takes a few Opportunities for us to really feel that to our bones and then because once you do that, you know You’re starting to take action, but really look for how you are and what you’ve done in the past Because that’s essentially What I was doing Um, but that’s really it’s just trusting yourself and that’s why I’m all about women connecting yourself and again, bringing it back to the energy.

It’s not just about what to do exactly or step by step. Same thing that you teach. It’s not just about here’s the exact money thing to do. It’s like, no, connect to yourself as much as possible, really trust and lean [00:45:00] in. And yes, you might fail, but know that if you totally fail and you totally mess up that you’re going to have your back anyway.

And you can look out and see how much everyone else has messed up and like, put yourself in that pool of everybody else and be like, this is, this is totally fine. Like, it’s not a big deal and I can keep moving forward, but just, and giving yourself that space to like, yeah. And like, no, it’s okay that you feel fear.

So it’s just trust and knowing it’s okay. And you are so powerful that you don’t even know, and you might regret it if you don’t do it, but your desires, like we talked about, they are there for a reason. So just keep trusting them and keep trusting yourself and just keep moving. Logically, just then evaluate and say, okay, this kind of didn’t work.

So I’m going to try this. Not like don’t ever go off of logic ever, never, ever, but you can always like, yeah, I did mess up, but I’m going to evaluate. And then you’re just going to keep getting better and better at trusting yourself and connecting and, [00:46:00] and knowing what you want. And I know that for a lot of people, it kind of seems like I can sit here and talk all day about it.

And honestly, it’s just something you have to start putting into practice because there, until you start really taking it. And doing it again. There was so many opportunities I missed. So, but as long as you can keep again, I’m going to keep repeating, connecting back to yourself to see what your desires really are and then stand by those desires and know that you’re going to have your back no matter if someone rejects you, makes you feel stupid, makes you feel embarrassed, says this is ridiculous.

You say, I don’t care. I want to. And so I’m going to, and it’s with that energy, right? Pay attention to the energy. I’m not necessarily forcing everything, I mean, like, everybody get the fuck out of my way, I’m doing this right now, like, there’s that too, but, it’s like, also, just like, no, I am, this is scary for me, this is a lot for me, I do want to cry.

But I’m doing this anyway because there is a reason and I know right now it’s [00:47:00] not working and I don’t want to be here. And then you do and you, and there’s going to keep being scary times and you keep doing it and then it feels so amazing. It feels so powerful and you make so many amazing women and, and you do amazing things and yeah.

Yeah, that’s all I, that’s all I have to say. 

Jamie: I love it. That’s amazing advice, amazing wisdom. So what’s next for you from this place of leaning into your desires, going after it. I’m curious, what’s the vision? I mean, I know it a little bit because of the retreat, but what do you see? 

Haley: Okay. Well, I have huge visions and I’m totally all about letting myself like talk about them now.

I mean, when you look at my face. Far out vision. I am making a million dollars a year and I am featured in Vogue. Like Whitney and I talked about that, like how to be famous. Yes, I’m going to be famous. I’m gonna be featured in Vogue. And, um, I’m going to not be living here. I’m going to be living elsewhere half of the year.

So I’ve got big dreams as far as that goes, but even in the [00:48:00] next year, like this year, I’m going to make 80, 000. And even right now, like I want to invite, like I’m focusing on inviting 10 women into my pro, like my one to one program for like a full year and there’s just like all these, like, it doesn’t feel super big, which is so crazy, especially like after going, like, it all feels so simple.

Like, even when I say I’m going to make 80, 000, I don’t even think about like, Oh, but how am I going to do that? I’m like, no, I’m going to test this out first. I’m going to test inviting this many women in for this amount. And this is because I’m excited about this. And then if that doesn’t work, I’m gonna.

You know, change and do this, but like my vision for myself, it’s just like more of this feeling, like the only few things I have for what specifically it’s like, yep, I’m making 80, 000 and I’m going to keep growing the orgasm babe one to one program and working with women one to one and just keep like living into myself and following the little desires and [00:49:00] opportunities that come and building my community.

And yeah, just like living into her and Yeah, I, I like, it’s like, I know, but it’s like, I don’t even know because that’s kind of where I have my mindset now where it’s like, I’ve got the vision for how I dress and who I am and all the things, but at the same time, it’s like, I’m not going to worry about how it happens and there’s going to be so many surprises and I know it’s going to be even better.

More amazing than I can even imagine, but bottom line, I’m a luxury orgasm coach with an amazing business, and I’m going to have my own place and beautiful apartment, and I’m just going to be living the life that I have always wanted to live. And it starts now. 

Jamie: It’s already started. Yes, 

Haley: 100%. 

Jamie: Yes. You have a foundation built, like you went through most, you know, like the Harvard of creating this in the past two months.

So I just want to [00:50:00] acknowledge you. I want to say you’re such an inspiration. Oh my gosh. And we’ll have to have you on the podcast again in like a year to be like, okay, I’m Where are we now? Right. Cause you just really started diving into this work with me at least. And then you just signed up for the Money Manifestation Movement.

So we’re going to be able to work on this for a year together. And I’m super excited to support you in it. Yeah, it’s going to be amazing. So I know everybody’s wondering, okay, this business sounds amazing. I would love help with this. So first thing is I want to hear who is this? Uh, the program for that you’re filling right now because there may be I’m imagining listeners that are would be like a perfect fit for the work that you do.

Who’s that for? And then how can we find 

Haley: you? Yeah, so this is for the woman who, it doesn’t matter if you’re married or single, because to me, this work, even if we’re focusing on just the sex part, it is for the woman who is single. This starts way before [00:51:00] being with anybody, because this is about You as the woman, right?

So any woman that is basically faking orgasms, or not getting the pleasure that she wants, or feeling like she doesn’t know what she’s doing, not feeling confident, and just kind of feeling like she’s there to please her man, and she just knows, that she’s just like tired, exhausted, and not showing up how she wants to be.

She just feels like this blob of existence, basically, and not as a woman. And so that’s who it’s for, because then when they come into the program, it is that one to one support where we are, again, yes, we are going to focus on creating those orgasms for you. but we are going to be focusing on you and how you want to show up and how you want to be as a woman when it comes to sex and in your relationship and in your marriage.

So you’re not just taking what you’re getting, right? Like, Oh yeah, he’s satisfied, but I’m sitting over here faking it and you’re not getting anything what you want. And [00:52:00] you, it’s almost like you feel yourself slipping. further and further and further away because of it and like digging this hole for yourself.

So any woman that just wants to step out of that and wants help specifically with sex, but then also wants to just embody and become that queen and that femme fatale and just that whole essence where she is a woman who asks for what she wants and gets what she wants. 

Jamie: Yes, I love it. And I will say just from, and this is why I was like, Oh my God, I didn’t realize this idea, at least for this name.

I know that you’ve been coaching on this for a while, but I had no idea. Right. It’s like, well, came together at the retreat because when we were doing hot seat coaching, the way we do it at the retreat is we really, we open the container where it’s very supportive and everybody’s kind of bringing their own wisdom in.

So I do a lot of the hot seat coaching, but then we’ll kind of open the floor You know, let everyone kind of throw in ideas, throw in [00:53:00] thoughts and hails, oh my gosh, when she was coaching, we were coaching on like someone on relationship and it was just like the wisdom that came through. It’s just like, it’s who you are.

This is your expertise. So yeah, I highly recommend if this is something that you have a desire around, like reach out to hills, where can they find you? 

Haley: Yes, you can find me on Instagram. So it’s just the orgasm, babe. There’s no dots in between. There’s no dashes. There’s nothing. It’s just the orgasm, babe.

Jamie: Yes. I love it. We will definitely link that up in the show notes. too. So you can all go follow Hills and thank you so much for being an inspiration of what is possible. You are the living emanation of the orgasm, babe, and all that it stands for. And you just powerful, powerful, you know, empowered woman is what you [00:54:00] are.

And yes. so much. Magnetic and I’m so excited to continue the journey with you and thank you so much for sharing all, you know, your story, your wisdom, everything. There’s just so many golden nuggets all throughout this podcast. I can’t wait to re listen to it. 

Haley: Me too. I know I’m gonna need it one day for myself again.

Jamie: Right? I love it. Hale, thank you so much.