Mastering your Feelings to Manifest with Saren Eads

[00:00:00] Jamie: All right, everyone. I have another super special guest for you today. I have Saren with me, who is one of my beautiful and brilliant Soulful Six Figure Mastermind clients here to share all the wisdom and goodness with you. Once again, we’re doing a Soulful Six Figure Mastermind Client Series and it’s been so fun and so inspiring.

[00:00:26] Jamie: I love, love, love hearing everybody’s different perspectives on business, on what works, on manifestation. And I know Saren’s process is unique. So I really want to dive into that. So welcome, Saren. I would love to have you introduce yourself, tell everyone a little bit about your business, about yourself and what you do and why you do it.

[00:00:49] Jamie: And then we’ll dive into all the questions. 

[00:00:53] Saren: I love that. Hi everybody. Hi everybody listening. My name is Saren and a little bit about me is I just love [00:01:00] living life. I always have even as a kid when YOLO came out and everyone was hyped up about it, but also thought it was a cliche. I was like, no, you only live once.

[00:01:07] Saren: It’s amazing. Let’s go. And, um, that really did shape my high school years into college years. And then when I found out that coaching is helping people live really fully and alive lives, I was like, This is for me. This is perfect. Like a career doing like what really lights me up. It just sounded incredible.

[00:01:25] Saren: One of my favorite things in the world is seeing a vision or a dream get turned into real life. So like whether that’s a charcuterie board that I can see in my head and now it’s on real, like in real life in front of us at a dinner party. Or whether it’s like a client’s dream, like they want to write a book and now it’s becoming published.

[00:01:42] Saren: Like those types of things. Just got on stage for a TED talk. Like one of my clients did this last week and she just got published at the TED talk speaker, like those types of things where I get to watch my own dream of like my beautiful house in Hawaii be turned into reality and finally built. And it looked exactly like I imagined it.[00:02:00] 

[00:02:00] Saren: It is so fun for me. So I think that’s why I love coaching and I love throwing retreats and events for the same reason. It is so fun for me to do that. So I do that in a, in a group setting is also one to one. 

[00:02:11] Jamie: I love it. It’s so you too, Sarah. And like, I do feel just such a joy from you and I like presence where you really, I just feel that whenever I’m surrounded by you, that it really is soaking it up.

[00:02:26] Jamie: And we have so much in common because I feel the same way. I think that’s why we’re both into manifestation and all this stuff and seeing. Visions come to life, right? It’s, it’s so amazing. And I always think about the YOLO thing too, of like, I want to give all the gifts to my future self, the me at the end of my life.

[00:02:44] Jamie: Like, I want her to be like, damn girl, you lived. Like you did it all. There was nothing you didn’t do. So I totally share that with you and I get why it’s so fun to teach it. 

[00:02:59] Saren: Like it really [00:03:00] lights a big fire, right? Like 

[00:03:01] Jamie: we get scoped 

[00:03:02] Saren: on this. Yes. A hundred percent. So 

[00:03:05] Jamie: how long have you been 

[00:03:06] Saren: coaching? So it’s been actually like, so three and a half years, four years ago.

[00:03:14] Saren: Um, I actually, how I got into coaching is I miscarried in the summer of 2019 and had no mental awareness. So like when it happened, I was like really suffering. I also was really like being told a lot of your young, You’ll have others and I was I was young. I was 22. And so they’re like, you’re going to have more babies.

[00:03:33] Saren: It’s okay. And I remember just feeling an immense amount of grief and an immense amount of anxiety that I didn’t know what to do with. So I was going to babysit like driving in the car and I’m like, I want to listen to something that’ll make me feel better. I just want this so badly and I want to be past this and Um, I Googled self help podcasts and the life coach school popped up.

[00:03:52] Saren: I was like, I listened to the very first episode. And so I did. And in that, Brooke Castillo talks about how it’s not your thoughts that make you feel a certain way, [00:04:00] or sorry, Track. It’s not the things that happen to you that make you feel a certain way, it’s your thoughts. And at the time I was like, I’m not even having thoughts like Yeah, right.

[00:04:08] Saren: Gave me anxiety. I was like, I dunno what you’re talking about. . Yeah. I was so unaware of my, of my mind at the time and when I was like, but what she’s saying sounds like I have control here. And if I do have control here, I want that more than anything. Like I want to be able to. experience my life fully, even though I’ve gone through something so hard.

[00:04:29] Saren: And when I realized that, I realized I had the thought that I was broken, and emotionally so. Like, I, was fragile. So if anything else happened to me, like a friend or, um, going to the beach with other people that I didn’t know or not being liked or like all the things that could potentially hurt me further, like any type of rejection or fear, I was just shut down too.

[00:04:48] Saren: So I just felt like that’s why my brain was trying to protect me from like having future pain when I was going through so much. And so once I realized that Brooke asked us, is it true? And I was like, [00:05:00] well, I actually don’t think it is like I. Not only had to live through it, but I could live through it again if I had to, and I was willing to, and I knew I’d be okay if it happened again, and when I knew that, I was like, I’m human, I’m okay, I’m alive still, that really unlocked this ability to believe actually I’m really resilient.

[00:05:19] Saren: I went through a lot, and I still can, and That anxiety went away. It was like a normal human emotion that I felt here and there versus something that like crippled me and wouldn’t let me go to the beach with my friends or to Costco because I was afraid of breaking down at any given moment. And that lasted for about nine months.

[00:05:35] Saren: So now we, here we are in 2020. I had just gotten a corporate job in HR. Three weeks later, the whole world shut down. Three weeks later, I got pregnant with my daughter and I was like, if I could do something like Brooke Castillo does, I’d want to do it, but like, who would take a 23 year old seriously? Like, I just had all these thoughts about it.

[00:05:54] Saren: I’m like, Brooke can do it. Cause she’s like, you know, close to 50, like, and for me, I was [00:06:00] like, but if I’m going to do this when I’m 50, what if I started now and had 27 years under my belt, so like build an empire. And so I did, I decided that I wanted to be a coach. I started getting certified that summer of 2020 was pregnant with my daughter working full time in HR and started taking, A free clients and, um, trade clients in the evening.

[00:06:18] Saren: So I had like up to 12 at one point in the evening, I would take naps at like two to three during my corporate job. I co person that I worked with, she would like take over for me then. And like, I would take over for her in the mornings if she was like a little hungover, like that kind of, we would just take care of each other.

[00:06:33] Saren: You were 

[00:06:33] Jamie: doing both. You were still doing your corporate job and coaching on the side. Wow. 

[00:06:38] Saren: And pregnant, like super sick and very pregnant. Yes. And so when you ask, um, just the question of like, how did I learn, like really jump into manifestation, it had to be through this channel of like, I couldn’t possibly do more.

[00:06:53] Saren: Like I couldn’t do more to build a business. And I really was. And a lot of fear that when I got pregnant, I wouldn’t be able to [00:07:00] have both or that they would compete. And that was a really scary thought. I remember like sobbing thinking my business was going to die, right? Like that dream I just decided like, I’m going to have this empire in 27 years.

[00:07:11] Saren: I was grieving that that was going to be gone because of the conditioning that we have a lot as women that we can’t have both. And I know my mom, um, was a great example. Throughout my entire life, but she also put so much on hold. So I thought that’s just what you had to do. 

[00:07:24] Jamie: Yes. Oh my gosh. That’s huge. So what shifted then that did allow you to do both?

[00:07:33] Jamie: Because look at, you know, I know you’ve got your adorable baby and you have this amazing, abundant business that has really grown in the past three, three and a half years, I guess, right? 

[00:07:47] Saren: Absolutely. So I made zero dollars from that space of it’s not going to work. Zero dollars, obviously, for obvious reasons.

[00:07:55] Jamie: When we think it’s not going to work, what’s in the result line? [00:08:00] Yes, of 

[00:08:00] Saren: course. And so I personally thought that I was like inconsistent. I actually had a business. Um, as an entrepreneur where I did, made jewelry in college and it was really successful worldwide business and I personally thought I just wasn’t an entrepreneur and I wasn’t good at it because I wasn’t consistent at some of these like admin tasks.

[00:08:18] Saren: And so I just thought I wasn’t good enough. I thought I wasn’t an entrepreneurial enough. And so in the beginning I thought the same thing too. And so when I was working through those thoughts. I came to a place of watching that my thoughts shifted so much and they changed so much for me. So I went from thinking like I’m not an entrepreneur to what if I could be and the thoughts of I’m broken to actually I’m resilient and a human being and we’re supposed to go through things like this.

[00:08:43] Saren: So I watched it work already in other areas of my life and so I was like, if I could really believe something different here, couldn’t I put a baby and a booming business in the result line? And then that’s when I received some coaching about how you could do less, but create more. And I was like, I want that so [00:09:00] badly, but how, like in this, like how, like just wanting to figure it out.

[00:09:04] Saren: And I decided to soften instead. And so that’s when I was like, well, if I’m going to do less, I have to. Show my brain that that’s possible. And so I started doing really a lot less. I worked maybe one to two hours a week and just, um, marketing and making it really potent. So I do like a bunch of emails or sorry, a bunch of posts, like probably three to four posts a week and just write them all in one hour.

[00:09:28] Saren: And I was just potent and I was quick. I made it really connection based. I focused on what felt really good to me. And I find my very first client, like. Four or five days before I went on maternity leave with my baby, like right before I had my daughter. And so I’m still working corporate. I’m about to go maternity leave.

[00:09:44] Saren: I have my baby. I go on maternity leave. It’s right around the holidays. So my client was like, yeah, take the time off. Like I want it too. Like it was just totally worked out. When I felt like I felt so much like myself so grounded in myself and so connected to [00:10:00] my people and I came back and I was like, I want to keep helping people and it was from this place of I know I can help you guys.

[00:10:06] Saren: And this belief that I could do less and create more I would work like a couple hours a week, but I replaced my entire salary while maternity leave and never went back. 

[00:10:15] Jamie: Wow. Oh my goodness. That’s amazing. So inspiring. I love it. And I think this is such, such, such, such, such, such an important message to moms or people who want to become moms or people who are saying, well, I have this big business.

[00:10:32] Jamie: How could I pot? I mean, even myself, right. I’m like, how could I have a kid? And it’s like opening my brain, right. Of like, Not that I’m having like the deep desire to have a kid, but a part of my brain does that because of that conditioning. So it’s so inspiring to see like, wait a minute and just remind everyone, you can really create any result you want.

[00:10:52] Jamie: We have to be willing to think differently. Right. And you did, and you have created that. So that’s in. [00:11:00] Credible. I love it so much. What was the thought? Because like you said, I replaced my corporate salary. What was the thought that allowed you to create money? And I know it probably has a lot to do with the part of you that was like, I can help people.

[00:11:14] Jamie: I know I can help people because I know when we think that thought, we know our value, but were there other thoughts that you think allowed you to actually just really have this business 

[00:11:25] Saren: take off? Yeah, a big one was like, I’m doing this and it’s done. Like, I really believed it was just going to happen no matter what.

[00:11:33] Saren: And it’s almost like when you have a baby, you know, nothing, and then you figure it out. I watched myself doing that. I was like, I could know nothing about how I’m going to replace my salary and figure it out. And it really was that thought, like, I can figure this out. And, um, It was just so much less confusion and more of like it’s done like I’m doing this and it was really from that place of I got to help people which felt really aligned to what I was building and what I wanted for them too.

[00:11:56] Saren: So it’s kind of like I got out of my head and into theirs where I’m [00:12:00] like I get to help them. 

[00:12:01] Jamie: Yes, that is so amazing. I love that. Yes, 

[00:12:06] Saren: that’s so good. Was that my business builds my home life and my home life builds my business. So like, I really didn’t think that like taking like I didn’t think either would take away.

[00:12:20] Saren: And I think when you build a really full life, you have to believe that all the pieces are building each other rather than taking away from the other pieces. And that was a big part of it. It’s like the more money I make, the better mom I am. And the more, the more present mom I am, the more money I make.

[00:12:34] Saren: Like, I believe that they all go hand in hand. 

[00:12:37] Jamie: Yes. And how do you see that playing out now? And to be true? 

[00:12:41] Saren: Yeah, it’s, it’s, One of the best things from there is I couldn’t blame my action line. I was working like two hours a week. Like I was breastfeeding full time. Like I couldn’t blame it on the sequence that I had built or the emails I had sent or I wasn’t doing those things.

[00:12:55] Saren: It was simply just the connections that I was forming and like who I was being. [00:13:00] And when I saw that magic work, I think it was the biggest blessing in my business was to go through that and have it happen on maternity leave because I couldn’t blame Actions for the rest of my business. And so I know it’s more of my energetic who I’m being and how I’m showing up in the world that’s creating the results for me.

[00:13:17] Saren: And so you could do so much less, but create so much more. And so I’ve watched that happen over and over and over again, as I’ve built a multiple six figure business annually by doing. so much less and doing more. And so when you were saying like, Oh, we all have this, I have a new health condition that has made me go right back into this.

[00:13:33] Saren: I’m relearning it right here, right now again. And it’s so powerful. It’s so powerful. And so for all of us, whether we want children or we don’t, whether we’re like, we have health concerns or we don’t like, it’s going to be something that’s so important for all of us to learn and do is like, there really are things working behind the scenes in our favor when, when we lean into that versus trying to like manufacture it.

[00:13:55] Saren: Yeah. Way to be, it’s so much lighter and so much more 

[00:13:58] Jamie: flow. And what a gift [00:14:00] that You learned that so early on and it’s like, it’s almost like the condition set you up to learn it because it was like, well, there’s two options here. I can either not do the business and just focus on maternity leave. Or what if I opened my mind to what if I could do both?

[00:14:20] Jamie: Right. And so I love that you learned that so early on because. You don’t, you know, some people, it takes a long, right. We’re, you know, are still tying it to time and all of that. And it takes a while. So what a gift. And to even see that, you know, manifestation works if that’s, you know, what you would call it of like the belief work and stepping into it’s gonna work.

[00:14:44] Jamie: And yeah, our thoughts do create our reality. That is so Incredible. 

[00:14:50] Saren: I love it. Absolutely. Like I could have thought of that as like a hurdle, but I really look at it as the biggest blessing of my life in business. And no circumstance can change your [00:15:00] power of manifesting. I just think that that’s so powerful to remember.

[00:15:03] Saren: And again, as I’m going through things right now, I’m like, that’s a great reminder that I need to hear. Yep. 

[00:15:08] Jamie: 100%. And you did it before. So it’s like now you have kind of the recipe because it sometimes is a process of forgetting and remembering and forgetting and remembering and saying, Oh wait, this is what worked before.

[00:15:20] Jamie: So it can work here too. And sometimes those things that really do feel like the biggest obstacles when we look at them in hindsight. are sometimes our greatest blessings. Like we learn the most through those. So I love it. They set us up perfectly. Yeah. 

[00:15:36] Saren: Who we’re becoming. 

[00:15:38] Jamie: Yes, totally. And I know one of your specialties is emotional wealth and emotional wellness.

[00:15:46] Jamie: So I want to learn a little bit more about that and how you’ve discovered that, what that exactly means to 

[00:15:53] Saren: you. Yeah, I think, I really think it goes hand in hand with, um, money abundance that we talk [00:16:00] about. It’s like this ability to feel really rich and wealthy in our lives, no matter what our circumstance are necessarily saying.

[00:16:06] Saren: And I believe that that is the same with emotional wealth. It’s like, how can we enjoy our processes and our journey? Because that’s what creates the destination versus how do we hit the destination? And like, Like run ourselves into the ground on the way there. And so when I have leaned into just being really present and full and rich in my emotions, hard ones, grief, shame, humiliation, misunderstood, all of those emotions, they have taught me something incredible about myself and incredible about my business.

[00:16:37] Saren: And the more I’ve leaned into them, the more alive I have become and the more energized I am by my life. And I thought it would be the opposite. When I first started emotional work, I really thought that if I leaned into that, I would get absorbed by it and I would turn into like this like pessimistic human.

[00:16:55] Saren: It’s not the case. You actually create a lot of aliveness where you’re able to go through [00:17:00] immense amounts of grief while also immense amounts of gratitude and love and awe for your life. In the exact same moment and I recently just experienced another miscarriage and that was exactly two months ago and The exact same thing.

[00:17:15] Saren: It’s like I was able to watch myself go through a human experience rather than making that human experience mean Really heavy and hard things about myself and that difference Astronomically different and how I feel and how I function Oh my 

[00:17:30] Jamie: gosh. When you say dive into, right, dive into the emotions, the grief that, and I’ve witnessed you do this and I’ve witnessed you move through this in the most beautiful way of not resisting, of, and just seeing you come out, I don’t want to say on the other side of it, but like you said, there’s the 50 50 of experiencing both sides and having almost like a breakthrough on the other side of it.

[00:17:59] Jamie: So I would [00:18:00] love to know. What that process is, even if it’s a process or if you could just describe for someone who is like, I have, I’m experiencing emotions. I have anxiety, I have depression or whatever it is, right? Grief. But I don’t know what you mean by diving in. How would you describe that?

[00:18:19] Saren: Absolutely. So I like to think of emotions and our willingness to feel them as a spectrum. So we have like the avoidant and we’re like avoiding them, pushing them away. Saying, please don’t come near me. I really want to feel happy. Sometimes I do that with scarcity where I’m like, oh, scarcity, go away. I don’t want you.

[00:18:33] Saren: I am in my abundant zone and I kind of want to see you. Um, and then there’s other like we can step into like, okay, like I understand that I need to feel this to feel better and then we can go into like more neutrality of like, okay, this is neutral. And then we can go into like, okay, I’m willing to feel this so it will go away.

[00:18:49] Saren: Yeah. And then we have, I’m willing to feel this. Yeah. And then we have on the whole other side of the spectrum, like I’m willing to lean into this on purpose to glean everything I can from this emotion and [00:19:00] learn what it’s trying to teach me. And. That leaning in or diving in or other words, that it’s like that full willingness to be present in our emotion.

[00:19:09] Saren: And the way I do that is I know often people talk about like a body scan and I will scan my body and watch what it feels like in my body. Sometimes it’s helpful to visualize that emotion as like a little emoji or like a presence coming to you to sit with you. And I love to ask like, what are you trying to tell me?

[00:19:26] Saren: What do you need? And most recently, my grief was sitting up really high in my throat and it was really a lot of fear. And the fear was that I would always be in suffering. And this was like, no joke, like two and a half weeks ago, like this, like really intense feeling. I also felt a lot of sadness and sorrow in my hips.

[00:19:44] Saren: And I was like, feeling it so intensely, almost more intensely than my body even felt like I could hold. And so sometimes I like to imagine that I have like this light around me that’s holding it for me versus like me having to hold it in my body. And that has helped to just [00:20:00] imagine that I have more space in my physical body to feel an emotion when it is that intense.

[00:20:04] Saren: And I let it intensify knowing that once it intensifies, it will dissipate. So it will intensify. It will teach me something and it will communicate to my logical brain what it needs and I’ll hear it. And there was things I wasn’t saying out loud. Like I was afraid of dying. I was afraid of, um, losing the people closest to me.

[00:20:24] Saren: And I wasn’t saying that out loud because it sounded kind of illogical. Like, okay, you went through a miscarriage, but the fear of losing your husband tomorrow isn’t very logical. So I wasn’t telling anybody that fear. And when I let myself like actually voice it and let it out and hear what my body was afraid of, it taught me so much.

[00:20:41] Saren: And I was able to be like, Oh, This is also a temporary emotion. This also won’t last forever. Your fear of death won’t last forever and it’ll be okay. And that like just giving myself space and room to move it. I also do yoga to process emotions, um, to move some of that somatic workout. I [00:21:00] also am doing acupuncture now, which has been really helpful.

[00:21:03] Saren: I go on meditation walks, which is. The best thing. I’ve been so in love with them right now, where it’s like listening to something. It’s like walking to fit yourself. I mean, you got it. I’m walking toward there. We are so soul twins. I love all of it. We totally are. Yeah, it’s like that willingness to like lean in on purpose.

[00:21:22] Saren: Like I’m going to feel you on purpose because I know you will unlock something for me. And, um, that, that willingness to do so. And like, Let it stay as long as it needs. Cause like sometimes I’m willing to feel it. So it will go away. So I can be like a rock star. I’m like, 

[00:21:37] Jamie: go in there. I’ll feel you for a minute.

[00:21:40] Jamie: A hundred percent. Oh my gosh. And that’s one of the things that I think was the biggest learning for me about manifestation that I felt was such a misconception or that I hadn’t. Heard much. I hadn’t learned much about it is that we learned so much about law of attraction in terms [00:22:00] of, Oh, feel these emotions and you’re going to attract them, right?

[00:22:04] Jamie: Which is absolutely true, right? If we step into emotions on purpose, but it’s, I also think manifestation, a huge piece of it is our ability to feel the uncomfortable emotions. That’s also. Half of it, if not more, is like the more we can expand our capacity to feel, I think the more we can manifest. And I know that’s been the case for me and been the case in growing my business or in anything that I have created because everything that I’ve created that has been new or like, you know, I know you’re all about creating your fairy tale life and me too.

[00:22:43] Jamie: And we think it’s going to feel really good to do that, but it actually is new and different. So to our consciousness, it’s, Scary. And it feels very uncertain and things that are on our, you know, manifestation board or vision board oftentimes [00:23:00] can feel scary. And so for me, one of the biggest lessons that I’ve learned about manifestation is it really is about my expanding my capacity to feel it all, not just the higher vibrations, but it’s like the more that I let myself feel the child more, but I would call challenging emotions or heavier emotions or the ones that I tend to want to resist.

[00:23:21] Jamie: On the other side of that, I also get to experience heightened joy and like you said, feel the most alive. So I get that. And it’s also not easy initially, right? Or what, what do you think about that? Yeah, I 

[00:23:37] Saren: think it’s, I don’t think it is easy. Once you become more familiar with it, it will become more familiar, but our brains are completely and 100 percent wired to avoid discomfort.

[00:23:47] Saren: Yeah. And those, like you said, those growth emotions, those discomfort like that our brains are wired to resist and tell us that it’s going to be extreme and painful and last forever so that we stay away from actually experiencing it. Yeah. And I [00:24:00] do think it’s like learning a new language, like I remember at first it’s like, I’m just going to practice this and then I’ll practice this a little bit more and I’ll practice this a little bit more and then I’ve become so fluent in it that like I can tell almost every sensation that’s happening in my body when it’s happening and even to the point where I’m like, Oh, my lymph nodes are kind of swollen right now.

[00:24:15] Saren: Like I know I’m starting to get sick. I’m going to take some more vitamins and like I can just tell that what’s going on in my body because I’m so present in it, but I used to be so Absent from my body. And so I think about emotional wealth. It’s just stepping into my human experience and almost like watching myself in my own body Go through a human experience and it feels very divine And it feels very like i’m the queen like watching a human go through something and it feels Like when I say alive, like it feels like alive.

[00:24:44] Saren: It, like I was, and when I speak about this specific memory, it was like when I was actively miscarrying, I was watching myself go through labor and sensations at home on my own with candles and like with beautiful music playing. And I was just like, wow, I’m watching myself go through something so hard and so [00:25:00] sorrow, sorrowful, and with so much grief and pain and physical suffering.

[00:25:04] Saren: And I’m watching myself and holding myself and being with myself. And it created like this divine, like. beautiful feeling along with it. Like when people ask me like how it was, I’m like, it was actually so beautiful and peaceful. And I would never have imagined having an experience like that, but it’s because I was with myself and seeing myself from like that divine space.

[00:25:24] Jamie: Yeah. 

[00:25:25] Saren: I was able to create that for myself. And I just think that’s such a gift to go through life’s hardest challenges with this ability to be seen and safe and held by your own soul and your own brain and your own body. Like That’s magic. And that’s what we’re here to give everyone 

[00:25:42] Jamie: a hundred percent.

[00:25:44] Jamie: And it’s like what you’re describing, I think is what the spiritual masters, no matter who it is, whether it’s Jesus or Buddha or whoever you follow, but that is what they consider awakening, right? It’s like awakening isn’t [00:26:00] just bliss all the time. Awakening is your ability to separate you from your human experience.

[00:26:08] Jamie: Right. Right. And not separated in terms of. Like, you know, Oh, I don’t feel it. You’re feeling it, but you’re experiencing yourself feeling it. And that is such a beautiful thing. And it’s incredible that you’re teaching this work too, because my gosh, like, life changing, life changing. And I’m curious for you, how has stepping into this?

[00:26:35] Jamie: And I love how you described it. I was like, I let myself do it little by little. So it’s not like you went from, I imagine, right? Like not even knowing that you had thoughts to, you know, witnessing yourself going through a painful experience and holding yourself. Right. I imagine it’s like, first step is just learning how to feel, learning that you have feelings, learning guide to identify them and do it and get step by step.

[00:26:58] Jamie: I’m curious as you’ve [00:27:00] been kind of step by step on this process of building emotional wealth, how has that impacted your business or how have you used that to grow your business? 

[00:27:13] Saren: I think that it’s When I think about like the number one practice I do in my life, it really is feeling and like being present in those emotions.

[00:27:21] Saren: So that is like the one thing I do daily. Like you will like always catch me having done that or feeling something or checking in on something in my body. And it really has been the thing that impacted my business the most because I work less than 20 hours a week and I don’t spend, I don’t overexert my energy on things that aren’t important or to me.

[00:27:41] Saren: Yeah. And It has allowed me so much freedom when I think about emotional freedom, I think about financial freedom and I think about time freedom and all of those have coexisted because of the emotional freedom I’ve created, which. I could have money and I could have time, but if I didn’t have that emotional piece too, I [00:28:00] don’t think I would feel free.

[00:28:01] Saren: Yeah. And so I think of kind of a spectrum of like poverty to neutrality to freedom to wealth. And as I’m thinking about that emotional wealth, it really has been the thing that’s brought in the most money. I also think about This is the most potent work I’ve ever done in my life. It is the most beautiful thing.

[00:28:19] Saren: It is the most valuable thing. And when I sell that to other people and like I’m a living billboard of it, it really does help other people learn and see like I could have that too. I can live that way too. I am not exempt from that too. Just like I used to once think that I was exempt from being an entrepreneur because I wasn’t consistent enough.

[00:28:37] Saren: Turns out it’s ADHD symptoms and being a manifesting generator. Like turns out it’s just like how I’m designed. 

[00:28:44] Jamie: Totally 100%. What’s your new thought about that? 

[00:28:50] Saren: Um, about what’s, I think there’s a couple things. I think one of them is this is who I am and how I’ve made. Let me lean into it. Kind of that idea of like [00:29:00] diving deeper this direction.

[00:29:01] Saren: I actually just got into my man, my, my, my, Human design a couple weeks ago when you pulled or you did it on your podcast. 

[00:29:08] Jamie: Yep 

[00:29:08] Saren: And it feels like it was such divine timing. I needed it so much It could not have known me better like you have raised me the way it did I was like it knows me and it basically is like lean into that Desire to create a lot of different things.

[00:29:22] Saren: Like don’t beat yourself up. If you take up film photography and then stop it two months later, like that’s not, that’s how you’re supposed to work in or wired to rather than judging yourself for it. And I think the biggest successes in my business have come from letting myself be who I am versus trying to change it or making myself wrong because it doesn’t look a certain way.

[00:29:42] Saren: So for all the listeners, like you will. Guy rocket in abundance and manifesting your entire dream when you let yourself be in your natural state rather than trying to make yourself something that you see other people having with success. Yeah. And I think that’s what Jamie is so good at in [00:30:00] your programs is teaching us to own who we are versus, and that’s why it came to you.

[00:30:04] Saren: I’m like, I want her to help me like hone in versus trying to do it a specific way that other, other people do teach it that way. 

[00:30:11] Jamie: Yes. Oh my gosh. I love that. It’s so true. And it is so true. And I have the same experience because I also have ADHD. I, you know, for me, I struggled in school. I always thought I wasn’t smart.

[00:30:24] Jamie: So that crept into, you know, being an entrepreneur and anything that I did, right. I just thought that I wasn’t good enough. And now it’s like my new thought about that after the journey is like similar to you. It’s like, you know, No, these are actually my gifts, but I have to figure out how to use it, right?

[00:30:42] Jamie: Because like, yes, there is the shadow side of that that makes certain things more challenging, but there’s also the gifts of it. So, 100%, um, when you lean into you and your way, it just works. So, Saren, I want to hear. What is your [00:31:00] unique way of manifesting? I 

[00:31:03] Saren: love that. I, I think it would be helpful for them to know what I have manifested too.

[00:31:08] Saren: Yes. A hundred percent. Yes. Tell us all 

[00:31:10] Jamie: the things. 15 

[00:31:12] Saren: months into my business, I had wanted to buy a home in Hawaii and Was like, Oh, I don’t know if we really could do that. Like, it was probably like, basically I remember we came and visited when my daughter was four months old. My family all lives here.

[00:31:25] Saren: We used to live here. And so we wanted to come back and four months old, my daughter, I was like, we buy a truck, we buy a house. It’s simple. We move here. And my husband’s like, it’s not that simple. And I was like, but what if it could be like, there’s like, what if it could be literally 15 months into having an open door in my business that my daughter is 15 months old at this point.

[00:31:47] Saren: I, we come back out to Hawaii and we’re like, Hey, we’re buying a home. Let’s find it. And we were looking and we were looking at my dad is an agent. And so he said, let’s go look at this pot of land that is in a [00:32:00] beautiful area. It wasn’t the area I was looking for specifically, cause I didn’t know the community as well.

[00:32:04] Saren: And I was like, that’s something I can change. Like I will get to know that community. So we came and we saw this beautiful piece of land. It faces the ocean. It’s in a cove of mountains. So bright green mountains right behind us. Waterfalls will come down from the mountains when it rains. It is like extraordinary.

[00:32:20] Saren: It’s also really close to where dolphins swim and whales swim. And it’s just like five minutes from the beach. You do, please do. I’m dead serious. And it was just gorgeous. And it was going to take a year to build. And we were like, okay, like, can we do this? I look at my husband, he’s like, I don’t know.

[00:32:36] Saren: We’re like trying to make the decision. He completely credits me a hundred percent to this decision because of the way I was able to hold belief when he’s like, logically, if interest rates rise at all, like we can no longer afford this million dollar home at 25 years old. He, um, he and I were like having a lot of thoughts about it.

[00:32:55] Saren: And I was just in full belief. I like, I knew I could make it happen. And we did. And [00:33:00] interest rates doubled making our interest payments monthly, an extra 3, 000 a month. I now needed because I had two years of business, but I now needed another year of business to even qualify for our loan. And so we couldn’t lock in at an interest rate before they got too high.

[00:33:17] Saren: It got really complicated pretty much that whole year of 2022. I was like either double my business or it’s nothing like, or we lose this house and they was in our contract. It was like we would have lost a hundred thousand dollars. We wouldn’t have been able to have the home. Um, if we didn’t close, there were so many things that we would have lost.

[00:33:35] Saren: And I was like, Had to go there multiple times where I’m like, I’m willing to lose it all. Cause I know I could rebuild, like, I know I’ll be okay. And I had to go there multiple times that year, but I ended the year at just a 200 K it was like two Oh one K and I doubled the business. And I, I had, um, just an incredible year and it was a trip of a lifetime.

[00:33:55] Saren: Like I spent that year like living and being and like experiencing my [00:34:00] life. And we moved in, um, a couple months later into our beautiful dream home. I just like watched that. Like I held belief before it was real. I held this vision of what it would look like before it was built and it looks exactly like I imagined it, even though we never saw it for real life.

[00:34:15] Saren: Like it was just dirt at the time. 

[00:34:17] Jamie: Oh my gosh. I love those stories when it’s like It’s just proof like there’s no other way than manifestation working, right? It’s like, there is no other reality that exists other than manifestation works because a situation like that where, you know, you, you saw it, you believed in it, it felt impossible.

[00:34:42] Jamie: And then with the, you know, mortgage rates going up or interest rates going up and everything, and then doubling your business. I mean, 100 percent that was meant to be yours. Yeah. It was one of those things 

[00:34:56] Saren: where I didn’t make [00:35:00] the hard things a problem or any evidence that it wouldn’t work. And so when you ask about the process of manifestation.

[00:35:06] Saren: That was a lot of it. I’d be like, Oh, this is coming up because it’s part of the process, not because it’s telling me that this is not the process. And that was something that I think was really helpful. So every time I got scared, every time I got scarce, I was looking at like, Oh, this is teaching me what I really, really want.

[00:35:23] Saren: And it’s like showing me what I desire right now. And like, yes, it feels really scary, but like, I’m willing to do that. And the willingness to hold that belief, no matter what that willingness to make it happen changed my entire life over and over and over again. So I will say that, like, just letting myself has a desire, have a desire really releases and unlocks the rest and the willingness to feel.

[00:35:45] Saren: That guides me along that journey and the willingness to be all in is like the cherry on top. I could just kind of like that, those three pieces together. So what would you say the process was for you? I would [00:36:00] say the first thing is like that desire, that desirous piece of like, okay, I want this and I really know that this is where I’m going and it’s the willingness to believe I’m worthy of that desire too, that I can have it even though there’s a lot of stories saying that I shouldn’t or, and.

[00:36:16] Saren: I like to think that anything that I really desire is really for me in some way. And so I like to expand that and be like, this is going to work. Like if this is like something I want, like it’s going to happen sometime in my life. Let’s go find out. So it’s almost like this secure attachment with life where like, I’m willing to like it.

[00:36:33] Saren: Believe and go all in and know I’ll be okay if it doesn’t work out. So I think that’s a big part of that belief is I’m so willing to believe because I know I have my own back if I don’t. So I think that’s a huge, huge step. And then the next step would be taking some of that aligned action and like really leaning into the discomfort of what happens when I make a big change like that, or go all in like that.

[00:36:56] Saren: And so I will say it’s like that belief piece, that emotional piece, and then that [00:37:00] aligned action piece of like taking the steps to sign the papers, to double my business in a year, to look at the numbers really specifically and be like, yeah, we actually won’t be able to, we’ll lose everything if we don’t do these things.

[00:37:12] Saren: And like the willingness to do that anyways, it was a high risk, but it was a high reward. And so when people look at my life, I’m like, how did you do it? So incredible. I’m like, you’re right. It is so incredible. And the only thing that’s like, different about my life then and my life now was this willingness to risk and willingness to have my own back if I didn’t make it.

[00:37:30] Saren: And I think just for everyone who’s listening, like if you want to create extraordinary things in your life, which you are because you’re listening, that would be how you do it. 

[00:37:38] Jamie: Oh my gosh. I love that. And it’s just the willingness to not run away at any point, right? Yes. Just keep going, keep holding the belief, even whenever it looks like it’s not happening or it’s an obstacle.

[00:37:49] Jamie: Oh my gosh, that is everything. And what’s so beautiful about this process that you’re sharing is like, you can literally use that for anything. You can use it during a launch, you can use it for a home, you [00:38:00] can use it for anything you want, you know, creating a relationship or something like anything. And it works.

[00:38:08] Jamie: It works. It’s just We have to hold it, uh, longer maybe sometimes than our brain wants to, you know? 

[00:38:17] Saren: Yeah. I really love to think too about this idea that like our blocks really melt away when it really is in alignment. And so the more I’ve done this in every area of my life, the more I’m like, That was crazy easy.

[00:38:29] Saren: Like what? Like I was just like, but not actually like when I say easy, it doesn’t mean not uncomfortable. I had all the discomfort, but when you’re willing to lean into that, it creates ease and flow. And so it really, like, I look back and I’m like, that was meant to fall into place. And so that’s my favorite part about, like, if you think about manifestation, it’s like, I’m going to intentionally do less and not force myself, which is going to 10 X The way I feel while I’m on the journey, but it will also create a 10 X result.

[00:38:58] Saren: It’s like, why do it any other [00:39:00] way? You can have both the journey that you love 10 times more and the result that you love 10 times more. Why not do it with alignment and manifestation? 

[00:39:08] Jamie: First side. I love it all. I love it all. So much golden wisdom. Oh my God. Okay. I know people are thinking. Saren, you’re awesome.

[00:39:20] Jamie: How can people get in touch with you? Oh, and I also want to hear also like what your business is in terms of what you offer, because I know you teach this stuff and you teach people how to create that fairy tale life and emotional wellness and, you know, manifest the life of their dreams. So can you share just a little bit more about You know, your programs or how you work with people and then where they can find you too.

[00:39:45] Saren: Yeah. So right now I have a program called beam your light and this is a woman’s group of creators and entrepreneurs who are really wanting to shine so much brighter. They know they’re meant for more and like they’re opening themselves up to create amazing things. [00:40:00] Some of them are authors, Ted talkers, um, business owners.

[00:40:03] Saren: Some of them are coaches. Some of them are real estate agents. Like it’s just a big variety of amazing people doing amazing things in this world. And We meet in person and so the next one will be in Hawaii and we meet in person for a retreat where I teach you the emotional wealth process and then we implement over the next six months while you just skyrocket and become and transform along the way.

[00:40:25] Saren: It is so fun to see how quickly my clients pick up and then go. Create like they just instantaneously two weeks in like, I have so much time, energy and capacity. What do I do with this? So excited. Which I’m like, that’s what I feel too. When you do life this way, you get rejuvenated and energized with like this new vitality.

[00:40:46] Saren: And like you feel energized by your life versus it draining you. And when you’re so used to it draining you, it almost feels like you don’t have the capacity for the new life. Life that you want to be living, but when you lean into this process, that comes naturally. [00:41:00] And then the energy also does come naturally.

[00:41:02] Saren: Oh 

[00:41:02] Jamie: my God. So good. I love that. And your retreat looked absolutely magical. I saw pictures, I mean, on Oahu and the beautiful, magical Hawaii, which we both love. Incredible. Yeah, absolutely 

[00:41:17] Saren: magical. And it’s one. It’s the thing that I love doing. And so that’s why it’s led this way is because like, just for everyone listening for business owners, like do business your way and people will come and they will love it and they will be so aligned by it.

[00:41:30] Saren: Like me finding Jamie. It’s like, I needed you. I wanted you. I was like, this is going to be the best way to work on building more income in my life and building my business to a million dollars. 

[00:41:40] Jamie: Yes. 

[00:41:41] Saren: Is that, is that the next manifestation? Yes, it is. I wanted to make a million dollars before 30. So I have two and a half years left.

[00:41:48] Saren: I love it. Oh my God. 

[00:41:49] Jamie: How fun. Got your million dollar home by 25 and then the million dollar business by 30. [00:42:00] Absolutely done. I love it. So much. That’s amazing. So tell everyone where they can find you and find out about your program and everything. 

[00:42:09] Saren: The best places to come connect on Instagram. I’m Saren Eads.

[00:42:12] Saren: So S A R E N E A D S on Instagram. And you would come and chat with me. We can talk, we can build your dream and the DMS, like how fun to just start exploring and adding some sparkle to what you guys want and are dreaming in your lives. 

[00:42:25] Jamie: I love it. Go follow her. You’ll love it. You’ll love it. Amazing. Thank you so much, Saren, for coming and sharing all of your wisdom.

[00:42:33] Jamie: And oh my God, all these conversations just keep inspiring me over and over. So I really appreciate you. 

[00:42:40] Saren: Of 

[00:42:40] Jamie: course. 

[00:42:41] Saren: Love you so 

[00:42:41] Jamie: much. You too.