How to Create More Rest to Achieve Greater Success

[00:00:00] Vikki Louise: Are you ready to hack your time? I’m Vicki and I am obsessed with course correcting everything that you’ve been taught about how to use your time, because I know that you can create more success while having more fun and taking more rest. I went from doing all the things, working 80 hour weeks to creating a 15 hour workweek.

[00:00:48] Vikki Louise: Listen and learn how to hack your time so you never have to say that you don’t have time ever again. You too will learn how to accelerate [00:01:00] without doing more today.

[00:01:05] Vikki Louise: Hello, hello, lovely people. I am so excited today to have my dear friend, um, time hacker and manifesting money manifesting goddess. In fact, all manifesting. I feel like you’ve helped me manifest more than just money. And in fact, I kind of feel like we manifested each other into our lives. Right? 

[00:01:24] Jamie: Yeah. One hundred percent.

[00:01:27] Vikki Louise: Yeah. Jamie Berman, by the way. I said everything but your name. 

[00:01:31] Jamie: Hello. So happy to be here. 

[00:01:34] Vikki Louise: So happy you are here. And just so everyone knows, I like stopped the recording for a minute so we could, you know, have a pre chat and everything we were saying was like, wait, we want to say that. So. By this point, you will all know that I am hosting something called Rest Week, um, the end of August, kicking off August 22nd.

[00:01:54] Vikki Louise: But what you don’t know is the inspiration behind Rest Week, the actual creator of Rest [00:02:00] Week, is actually Jamie Berman. Like, what we’ll do, what I’ll be doing is obviously different, but Jamie first mentioned Rest Week to me, A few months ago now, like, yep. My 

[00:02:11] Jamie: January. 

[00:02:12] Vikki Louise: Yeah. So why don’t you tell people, um, about rest week, what it is for you, how you came up with the concept, all of the good stuff.

[00:02:24] Jamie: Totally. So rest week came, actually, it came from a challenging time that I was going through. So actually when we met, so we met about not even a year ago, which is. Crazy. It feels like so much longer. We met in Italy. It was amazing. And we just had the best conversations. And I remember being so inspired by the way that you think about time and, you know, I love manifestation and I have done so much work around manifesting money, manifesting all the things, but I realized.

[00:02:57] Jamie: Oh my gosh, I’m in time [00:03:00] scarcity. This is an area that like, Ooh, like this is sticky. And I realized as you were talking about time, I’m like, Oh, these are the thoughts that I have about money as I’ve done my money work. And I was like, I want to have that with time. I want to feel abundant with time because that was one area that was totally tripping me up and causing me to, you know, just not enjoy the time that I did have off and feel like.

[00:03:27] Jamie: Even though I had cut down my hours, I felt like I was always working in my head. So I realized I was still always drained and honestly realized, and I think it’s just probably through some conversation that we have that I didn’t know how to rest. And that was kind of hard to realize, but at the same time, really good and really needed.

[00:03:49] Jamie: And I knew that was my next edge and my next area of growth. So. Basically at the end of last year in December, I had gone through so many [00:04:00] things like personally. And then I was in the middle of a launch and my dog was sick in the hospital. I wasn’t sleeping for a week straight. So I just went through it and I was in burnout and realized I really need rest.

[00:04:11] Jamie: So I. That’s it. Took this courageous action of just dropping my launch or not dropping it, but postponing it. And I was like, I need a sabbatical. Like I need to learn how to rest in this body needs to be rested. It was like my whole body was screaming at me. So. I basically decided to take, and this is scary, but I was like, it was like, my intuition was just like, there’s no other way.

[00:04:36] Jamie: Right. So I was like, I have to do it. It’s so scary, but I’m taking the whole month off. I was like, I’m taking January off. In fact, I’ll even go into February, but I’m going to get. My system back, my nervous system better. I’m going to learn how to rest. I’m actually going to rest for the whole month. And I called it a self care sabbatical and through that, like my intention, I remember beginning of January was just, I pick a word of the year and my word was [00:05:00] rest this year, it was like, I’m going to learn how to rest from Vicki.

[00:05:06] Jamie: So, yeah, so through that, I, as I was like taking a whole month off, I’m like, what if. Instead of like going, going, going, going, going, going, and then needing a vacation so bad to the point where that month was not even enjoyable. Cause it felt like there was so much pent up energy that needed to be released and processed and everything.

[00:05:27] Jamie: So I decided instead of waiting until I need an entire month sabbatical, why don’t I just break this down throughout the year so that I am having this time off. And that’s when I was like, let’s do. Rest week. Let’s do once a month rest week. I’ll do it the last week of every month. Um, I’ll make it work amazingly for my clients and just a week to reset and not necessarily feel like I have to fill it with a vacation or something like that, which is [00:06:00] something I would do in the past.

[00:06:01] Jamie: Like if I had time off, it was like, Ooh, where am I going to go? Who am I going to see? So there was just 

[00:06:08] Vikki Louise: I’m so glad you touched on that point because a lot of people listening will like, I want everyone to really think about like, how do you even define rest? Like really what is rest to you? Do you think being on vacation is rest?

[00:06:19] Vikki Louise: Because actually for parts of your brain, it’s not rest at all. It’s getting used to like being in an unfamiliar environment. It can put your alerts, you know, it can put you on high alert and out of your comfort zone. And like, of course you can lay by a pool. there were just different types of rest and different resting needs and you’re like you in case you can’t see jamie she’s nodding her head having gone through this experience of repeating rest versus you know yeah i just love that you said that i think it’s really important that we know that rest doesn’t have to be filled 

[00:06:50] Jamie: Yeah.

[00:06:50] Jamie: And I think for me, I was like, Oh, I know how to take time off. I know how to work this amount of hours, but I didn’t know how to rest my brain, which meant I wasn’t [00:07:00] resting. It’s exact mental. If you don’t know how to mentally rest you, I mean, for me, it blocks creativity. It blocks flow. And we, as a manifestor, I can’t be doing that.

[00:07:12] Jamie: Yeah. So I just realized the importance of it. And I can’t say it was easy or is easy, but I just. Totally see the benefit now. 

[00:07:22] Vikki Louise: Yes. I mean, so one of the, one of my favorite Jamie sayings is manifesting is my business plan. I love it. I recode it back to her all the time. And when I was thinking about this podcast, I was like, rest is my business plan.

[00:07:34] Vikki Louise: Yes. Yes. You said it’s like true rest. Firstly, it doesn’t have to be long. I think often people are like, Oh, I don’t have time for rest versus realizing three minutes of actual like silence in your brain. can be so valuable. Um, and just starting where you are. And this is obviously all these things we’re going to go through during rest week.

[00:07:58] Vikki Louise: Well, I’m not, I will say, people [00:08:00] joining rest week don’t have to rest the full week. Like, there’s no rule on that. But, um, but I do think it’s really powerful. For your brain, having gone close to burnout and experience that to know ahead of time that you are taking care of it, like, how has it changed your relationship?

[00:08:18] Vikki Louise: Do you think with your brain and with yourself knowing that you have created rest week? 

[00:08:23] Jamie: Oh my gosh, in so many ways, I think, oh my gosh, like so much self awareness has come through that. And that’s where I said, it hasn’t been easy, but it’s been amazing because yeah. It’s not till we rest where like the stuff can come up.

[00:08:39] Jamie: It’s been wanting to come up that I didn’t realize was there. So I feel like, yes, my word of the year has been rest, but it’s been an incredibly. It’s been a transformational year internally of just deeper levels of healing that I didn’t recognize were necessary. So doing that [00:09:00] work and having the space to be able to do it, I think in terms of my relationship with my brain, Since I love teaching manifestation, it’s been an opportunity in a big way to be like, do you believe in manifestation?

[00:09:13] Jamie: Or do you like, if you do, why do you think you have to work all of these hours in order to create results? You know? So it’s been even, um, diving into that further and deepening my relationship with that. Um, and as I was saying, Rest just allows for, I think so much more creativity, so much more joy, so much more just breathing, just being.

[00:09:39] Jamie: And, um, that’s been super influential. Like I created an entire new course this year because of it. So I didn’t even like actually realize that’s what happened, but it was like through those months where I was deeply resting that first quarter of the year where I was like, all these ideas then started springing.

[00:09:56] Jamie: It wasn’t immediately, but it felt like. Following [00:10:00] that, they started coming of just these Yeah, 

[00:10:04] Vikki Louise: that’s what I was going to say. I think so many people are afraid that if they rest, it’s going to have them produce less. And what I know from the behind the scenes scoop speaking to you is you actually end up creating this whole money manifesting course.

[00:10:20] Vikki Louise: It’s going to help thousands of people, if not tens of thousands throughout its life. Um, because you allowed yourself to rest and you allowed yourself this is very important everyone she allowed herself to rest first not after she didn’t say oh i’m going to create this course and then i’ll rest you literally rested and then the course started 

[00:10:39] Jamie: pain.

[00:10:40] Jamie: Totally. And it wouldn’t have come had I not rested. I knew it was there. It was an idea, but it wouldn’t have come on this level had I not done it in that way. And in the past, that wouldn’t have been the case. I would have been like, let me create it. And then after that, and yeah, resting. 

[00:10:56] Vikki Louise: Yeah, because so what’s interesting, like you say, you are a [00:11:00] manifesto you created.

[00:11:01] Vikki Louise: I mean, I know results in your business, but also outside of your business, um, even I’m just going to tell this story, actually, I want everyone to hear this story. We were in Italy, gorgeous trip, like best trip ever, um, as, and a bunch of our bestie coach friends. And even though I didn’t know anyone before the trip aside from Lindsay, but now my best coach friends, um, And we hired a photographer one day to do photos.

[00:11:26] Vikki Louise: You remember? And the sky was gray and it was raining. And we sat around and we were like, Oh my, we have this gorgeous, huge patio looking out with the Amalfi viewers that you want the photos of. And we were like, Oh my gosh, it’s going to rain. And we can’t believe it. And we just, I think you said you were like, well, we’re manifestors.

[00:11:44] Vikki Louise: What if we just manifested sunshine? I was like, yeah, we could manifest sunshine. And I kid you not. Literally, the clouds went away, the sun came, if you follow me on social media you’ll see some of those photos, like sporadically, um, and it was just such a powerful [00:12:00] moment because it was such a simple manifestation, but it really was like, all the weather and the news reports were saying otherwise, we made it.

[00:12:08] Vikki Louise: We made the sun come 

[00:12:09] Jamie: out. We totally did. That was so fun. It was so awesome. And that’s the thing, is like, you can use it with the littlest things. And when you notice yourself going negative, that’s the time to use it. And so I noticed we were all like, oh no, like it’s raining. The pictures are going to be terrible.

[00:12:22] Jamie: Are we going to have to do it inside? I’m like, wait, wait, wait, wait. Let’s just manifest. We’re powerful. It was so cool. Yeah, rain went away. It worked, 

[00:12:31] Vikki Louise: it worked. . Um, so I love that story. I think it’s such a fun one. But what I was saying was what I, what I’m hearing from you, and maybe people listening is like, you know, manifesting works.

[00:12:43] Vikki Louise: You’ve created results through manifesting, but what you’ve experienced, and I want everyone to listen to this because like, I just want them to know who you are, where you are, what you’ve created, and still the programming that you’ve had. The doing more creates results that working more, that giving more [00:13:00] time to being in your business or thinking about your business or thinking about your clients, um, it was going to contribute to your goals, which actually contradicts like how you on purpose and how, like, think, believe, and.

[00:13:16] Vikki Louise: This is the case for so many people. I think like what you feel, what you actually believe on purpose is different to the programming that you’ve had. And by allowing yourself to really rest, you’re exposed to that ugly programming. I remember when I went down to my 15 hour work week and my brain was like, you are so wrong.

[00:13:34] Vikki Louise: So fucking lazy. Who are you to do this? You don’t deserve results. You should feel embarrassed. Don’t tell people how little you’re working. No one’s going to respect, like all of this ugliness came up and having to meet yourself there with so much compassion. And that’s what people forget about rest is it’s hard.

[00:13:52] Vikki Louise: It’s uncomfortable and it’s ugly before it’s like, I call it like a detox. It’s literally like a physical [00:14:00] detox out of your brain and 

[00:14:02] Jamie: Totally. And I’m Oh, so grateful that, you know, I was in time hackers and know you and, you know, we’re friends. And I, I probably without you sharing that with me would have been like, Oh, forget this back to work.

[00:14:20] Jamie: This sucks. But you were there kind of, I felt like holding my hand through it. Like, Oh no, this sucks. Is normal, right? You’re supposed to have these thoughts. You just lay in bed and you notice those thoughts, but you don’t give into them game changer. And so I’m so grateful that I learned through you because.

[00:14:38] Jamie: This is just not something we know. We are not taught to rest. 

[00:14:41] Vikki Louise: Yes. And like you say, left, if you feel like ass, you feel like shit and you’re, you’re craving rest and you go to rest and you feel worse, of course you’re going to be like, Oh, that’s not the thing that I do. I need to do something else. And exactly like you said, it’s kind of like, listen, not everyone has it, but [00:15:00] if we don’t, I just want to normalize and speak for those of us that do.

[00:15:04] Vikki Louise: Um, so. This is, I think, the power of why I’ve created this week to teach, coach, be in a community, normalizing this experience of it, being around other people going through this process, so we can, instead of running away from the discomfort, come and get support. a different way, in a way that’s conducive to actually our long term goals.

[00:15:27] Vikki Louise: Because imagine, I want everyone to think about this, like, imagine trying to rest, having the discomfort and running away from rest. What are you going to do for the rest of your life? 

[00:15:37] Jamie: Totally. 

[00:15:38] Vikki Louise: Like, I’m not going to 

[00:15:38] Jamie: rest. 

[00:15:40] Vikki Louise: No rest. Imagine. All 

[00:15:41] Jamie: the same patterning over and 

[00:15:42] Vikki Louise: over. Burnout. Yeah. Yeah. And that’s what we’re seeing, right?

[00:15:46] Vikki Louise: Like people are, we’re at this like, We’re living at a higher quality of life than ever before, but we’re more burnt out than ever before. We’re working more hours than ever before. We’re more exhausted than ever before. And our productivity has, hasn’t [00:16:00] even gone up by that much. That’s what’s embarrassing.

[00:16:02] Jamie: You know what it reminds me of actually is, um, I really was like, I was working on my relationship with my body and with food and wanting to eat more healthy and all of that. And as I started shifting into that and eating more healthy, it’s like, it feels so much worse in the beginning. And that’s why most people run, right?

[00:16:21] Jamie: I actually coached on weight loss for several years. And so it’s the same patterning where our brain’s like, wait, this feels terrible. I hate this feeling in my body. Let’s just. Go back to doing what we’re doing, but then you perpetuate that same cycle over and over and you feel stuck, which is so much worse than that.

[00:16:39] Jamie: If you just work through that initial discomfort 

[00:16:44] Vikki Louise: to 

[00:16:44] Jamie: get to the other side, to where just like eating healthy is completely normal to me. I wouldn’t even want the foods that I used to eat. Like it’s, I don’t even think about it. And so I feel like rest. I’m still working on that one, but it’s going to be the same [00:17:00] where that’s just my automatic.

[00:17:01] Jamie: I don’t have to actually intentionally try to rest or set the time aside, right? And work with my brain to rest. But eventually it will come a day where like you, you just do your 15 hour work week. That’s just who you are, what you do. So, yeah, it’s necessary. I guess, you know, any transformation there’s that initial, um, liminal space we go through 

[00:17:24] Vikki Louise: a million percent.

[00:17:25] Vikki Louise: I mean, our brains are like change. I don’t want this. It’s like, I need to change. And then it’s like, I don’t really want to feel like this. This is scary and unknown. And we’ve not done this before. Let’s keep like, like me, you know, Let’s keep working 80 hour weeks. Let’s just keep doing it. At least we know what it looks like, even if it sucks, even if it feels terrible.

[00:17:46] Vikki Louise: This is like a new kind of terrible. I don’t know where it’s going to go. I don’t know where the end is. 

[00:17:50] Jamie: Yes. 

[00:17:50] Vikki Louise: You know? 

[00:17:51] Jamie: Yep. Yep. That’s it. 

[00:17:54] Vikki Louise: Yeah. 

[00:17:54] Jamie: Through it. And I think rest is one of those that’s, oh my gosh, transformational that I [00:18:00] just had no idea. No idea. 

[00:18:02] Vikki Louise: Yeah. And I think like we’ve spoken about a lot of the narrative around rest is like earning rest or this is just, this is a few things that I think we get wrong.

[00:18:12] Vikki Louise: One is rest is earned. The other is rest feels good. Um, and the other is like, rest is lazy. That’s still 

[00:18:20] Jamie: out there. Let’s be on the biggest one for sure. I think that’s the conditioning that comes up. Like when you’re laying down, whenever you’re not working, I mean, yeah, for sure. I have that one. 

[00:18:31] Vikki Louise: Yeah. Like I could be doing something.

[00:18:33] Vikki Louise: So I should 

[00:18:34] Jamie: exactly. 

[00:18:35] Vikki Louise: Yeah. I have to earn, not even just, I have to earn the rest, but also I have to earn my business results. You know, so I’m seeing this in the 15 hour workweeks mastermind with my clients in there. It’s like they’re doing less, achieving more. And then now one of them literally last week, I was like, I might just, I could just be my own VA now.

[00:18:55] Vikki Louise: I was like, that’s not why I’ve got all the time. I’m like, no, no, we’ve not created you 15 hours [00:19:00] and successful launches for you to just be your own VA just because you can, but it’s going to keep showing up. It really is. I dunno. I just think even in school for me, you can tell me what your experience was like, but in school for me, it was like, Every time has to be accounted for.

[00:19:17] Vikki Louise: You have to be doing all the things. If you weren’t, I mean, my first year at high school, I didn’t do any homework all year. I don’t know why I didn’t do it. I can’t get back to that brain and understand my thinking process. But I remember going to parents evening and them telling my mom and she was like, why didn’t you let us know during the year when we could do something about it?

[00:19:35] Vikki Louise: Um, and then I got this reputation of being like lazy and whatever, but I was actually a really hard worker. I just never did what I didn’t think I had to do. 

[00:19:45] Jamie: Yeah, totally, totally. And 

[00:19:49] Vikki Louise: yeah, I was just gonna say and then the narrative throughout a lot of my school was like negative towards me. Um, like I’ve spoken previously on the podcast about being an underdog with what I achieved and everything, but [00:20:00] it’s literally doing less is bad instead of how about like I didn’t do any homework that year of school and I still got all A’s for my GCSEs.

[00:20:09] Vikki Louise: Why aren’t we celebrating? Why isn’t that better? Yeah. 

[00:20:11] Jamie: Yes. 100%. Why aren’t we looking at you and being like, wait, how is that done? Yes. Yes. I mean, there’s so much conditioning. I, that I took on too, where, I mean, I just remember even growing up, like we weren’t allowed to lay around the house. If we were as kids, there were five of us.

[00:20:31] Jamie: And if we were like laying on the couch watching TV, my parents would go outside, go play, go find friends, go run around. Like we always had to be doing something or being outside. It was never, we couldn’t just rest. So of course it’s challenging. Of course it’s new and different. Not relearn it, but learn it.

[00:20:51] Jamie: Yes. 

[00:20:51] Vikki Louise: Yes. I think that’s really, yeah. And it’s funny, you know, now I’ve got a little baby and it’s like, the best thing a baby can do is rest. That’s like literally the best thing [00:21:00] for them. He actually had some, um, vaccines today and they’re like, just, he just needs to rest. That’s how we will cover the best.

[00:21:06] Vikki Louise: And it’s like, how many people when they’re feeling sick or ill, like push through and like, I must push through. This is like actually letting myself rest. recover properly and then showing up. And my genuine belief, and I’d be interested to hear about your experience. I think we’ve touched on it, but if there’s anything else you’d add, my genuine belief is resting is more valuable than 80 percent of the things on everyone’s to do list, like 80 percent of them.

[00:21:35] Jamie: I love this thought.

[00:21:40] Jamie: And I believe you. And I think that’s something I still am working on. 

[00:21:45] Vikki Louise: That’s 

[00:21:45] Jamie: something I’m still working on for sure. Yeah. Yeah. But I believe I, I agree. I agree. I’ve seen evidence of it, but my brain is still like, wait a minute, but all of these things, right. So I’m still working through this. [00:22:00] And, um, yeah, even like we were talking about right in the beget rebel.

[00:22:05] Jamie: Before we started recording, I was like, this is the perfect timing for the podcast, because I had to go back through and think about like the benefits of the rest. And now I got myself a little bit out of it. Cause I’ve been traveling this summer. I’ve been finishing up the course and just spent, I didn’t really honor my full rest week and I’m feeling it.

[00:22:24] Jamie: I can feel it. So. This is, I’m still doing the internal work around this. 

[00:22:30] Vikki Louise: Yeah. And also I’m glad you shared that because it’s not about being perfect. Nothing that I speak about is being perfect. Even I will share with you all, when I came back my first week back after my leave and I was just going to do three hours, then I got on the call with my VA and I was like, Oh, you know what?

[00:22:46] Vikki Louise: We could just do this and do this. And I just like had a million ideas because I’d not looked at anything for a few months. And I literally said to her on like my, you know, I know resting is valuable. I know that I wanted to pace myself. I know, you know, all of this stuff I know, but [00:23:00] my, reform, my inner hustler, whatever, you know, that’s my go to pattern.

[00:23:05] Vikki Louise: And I think whenever we, you know, do something different. So for me, having a baby was something different. And then we come back to doing something we were doing before the oldest habit shows up first. It’s like, Hey, I’m familiar kind of like, I guess if I was to go to like, so you spoke about food. I think like, if you’re someone who, I’m trying to think of an example, like say you don’t have any desserts or whatever and then you’re like, oh I’m gonna have one dessert, but then you end up wanting three or having three.

[00:23:33] Jamie: Yeah. Because that’s 

[00:23:33] Vikki Louise: how you used to be in that moment. 

[00:23:34] Jamie: Totally. Right? 

[00:23:36] Vikki Louise: Yep. Um, so I literally, yeah, I literally said to her on the call, I was like, oh don’t let me do any new project for this month, like I’m just not doing it in July, we’re just, No, like even when I come to you with an idea, just be like, thanks.

[00:23:50] Vikki Louise: Um, and I think it’s totally okay to ask for support in that way. And we don’t have to do it all alone. I think a big factor is, like you said, in our conversations, in time [00:24:00] hackers, in programs, in community, that’s why rest week is a community thing. Um, yeah. A big part of it comes in being able to own honestly, where you are and just get that additional support.

[00:24:12] Vikki Louise: Because I mean, my thought is in the real world, most people, I still get it with my parents, bless them. They’re like so shocked. I’m living with them now while my husband’s still in France. And they’re so shocked that when I came back, how I was working before Ethan was born and even now, like they’re like, but you’re, you know, you’re like growing things, you’re creating clients, like things are all working, but you like, don’t do anything.

[00:24:36] Vikki Louise: Like, yeah, well, I do just the most important stuff, but thank you. You know, they’re just from a different time. 

[00:24:47] Jamie: Yeah. 

[00:24:48] Vikki Louise: And. You know, now they get it. But if I think back to the conversations we had at first with me cutting down my hours, there was a little bit of like, I mean, they love me, but there was a little bit of like, [00:25:00] yeah, but what are you going to do?

[00:25:01] Vikki Louise: Yeah, but then you could do this. Have you thought, you know, my dad literally was like, the other day I was saying how I would love a co working space near me. There’s these pubs, we should like turn one of those pubs into a co working. He’s like, why don’t you do that? Why don’t you rent the whole thing?

[00:25:13] Vikki Louise: Renovate it. I was like, because I don’t want to work more. Like, I don’t, I’m not looking to fill the time. Yeah. It’s just that different mindset. 

[00:25:23] Jamie: Yeah. And I mean, I know whenever I’m even working with my clients around this, not that that’s my specialty, but I help them slow down. And um, I think one of the things that I noticed most is they’re like, well, yeah, what do I do?

[00:25:38] Jamie: Like if I’m, I don’t, I don’t even know what I would do if I had more time. And it’s like, no, that’s not the point is to do more. 

[00:25:45] Vikki Louise: Yeah. Yeah. That’s. Um, so everyone just listens to that question. I promise that’s come up in people’s heads as we’ve been talking, but what would I do if I had more time? And we want to know it ahead of time so that we can feel comfortable instead of learning to [00:26:00] be comfortable with space.

[00:26:02] Jamie: Yep. Yep. Oh my gosh. The most amazing thing we can learn to do, being comfortable with space, being, being not even comfortable, but holding space for uncertainty and all of that. Oh my gosh. 

[00:26:14] Vikki Louise: Yeah, because the reality is, and I’m going to go more into this in the program in the pop up, um, is spending time in space is spending time with yourself.

[00:26:26] Vikki Louise: And if we can’t get good at that, then what relationship do we have with ourselves? 

[00:26:30] Jamie: Yeah. Oh my gosh, yes. And that’s the work I’ve been doing is relationship with self that I didn’t know. It’s like, Oh, I did that work. I went to USM. I did tons of retreats and I’m like, Oh, there’s another layer. That’s completely at his relationship with me.

[00:26:48] Jamie: I’m doing inner child work that I didn’t recognize was, you know, It came up and yeah, that’s it. So really that’s what, that’s what rest is. So, yeah, [00:27:00] so fun. 

[00:27:01] Vikki Louise: Okay. Um, I want you to tell everyone about you and about your program and about how they can find out more about you and where they can buy your money manifestation program.

[00:27:11] Jamie: So as we touched on, I have a new course that is a result from arresting and it’s called the money manifestation course for entrepreneurs. And I have. A program along with that. So if you want to do a deep dive into money, um, can also do coaching as well. And that comes out August 31st and yeah, I’m so excited about it.

[00:27:34] Jamie: It’s, oh, it’s been so much fun. So that comes out August 31st. And then, yeah, if you want to connect, I love connecting with humans. So I’m at Jamie Berman on Instagram, Jamie Berman underscore, and you can find me at jamieberman. com. Just look up Jamie Berman everywhere. That’s where we’re going to link it 

[00:27:54] Vikki Louise: in the show notes.

[00:27:55] Vikki Louise: And I actually haven’t. And [00:28:00] hopefully Jamie will be there for rest week. And you can also ask her questions and I’m sure she’ll be happy to help as an expert. I’ll be there. I’ll be there. Just dropping her in it right now. Um, well, cause I think it’s super, I think it’s great to ask more different people that perspective.

[00:28:19] Vikki Louise: And like you say, sometimes maybe I’m a bit further along and sometimes the best thing is to speak to people at different places. It’s not about like, I said this being perfect with it all the time. Um, so yeah, I would love and appreciate you being there and everyone gets to ask you questions and then you can, um, people can find you and stuff there as well.

[00:28:38] Vikki Louise: Amazing. Beautiful. So fun. So you want to hang out with me and Jamie and lots of other amazing people come to rest week. It starts the 22nd of August. It’s going to be Full seven days together. It doesn’t matter if you just join and then you don’t do anything. Like it is the opposite of doing, even though there’s going to be live [00:29:00] coaching, powerful questions, like everything that I build, as you know, through time hackers, everything that I build is built around what’s the least that you can do for the most amount of impact.

[00:29:09] Vikki Louise: And that’s the same with resting. What’s the least rest you can do for the most amount of impact. So if you are listening and thinking now is like the worst time for me to even think about resting. Doesn’t fucking matter. Don’t let anything put you off from investing on Leek in this. Because as Jamie shared, you don’t know what’s on the other side.

[00:29:26] Vikki Louise: You don’t know what you’re going to be able to create on the other side and experience on the other side. And REST really, for me, was the key. It was like the unlocking of. A better relationship with myself, a better access to creativity, more self trust, more willingness to fail and put myself out there and have other people disagree with me and stand for what I believe in and all of this juicy stuff that I want for each of you listening.

[00:29:51] Jamie: Definitely join. It’s going to be so worth it. 

[00:29:54] Vikki Louise: Yeah. So it’s Vicky Louise. com forward slash rest. That link will also be in the show notes [00:30:00] or available on my Instagram at feminist time coach. Thank you so much, Jamie. I love you and your wisdom and your manifesting. And I’m so grateful to have you in my life.

[00:30:09] Jamie: Hey, 

[00:30:15] Vikki Louise: if you want to get five hours a week back minimum for life, then I want to invite you to join Timehackers. It’s this podcast on speed where you’ll get access to time hacking tools, not shared on the podcast. You’ll get access to my proven process for hacking your time to get five hours back every week, at least.

[00:30:40] Vikki Louise: It’s also my favorite place to hang out and will be yours too as you connect with other timehuckers where you’ll get celebrated, supported and coached of course. You are a timehucker. This is where you belong. Head to VickyLouise. com forward slash group. I can’t [00:31:00] wait to see you there.