Co-Creating with God: Karla Fitz on Faith and Manifestation

[00:00:00] Jamie: Welcome everyone. I am bringing a special guest on. I’m bringing the amazing Carla Fitz, who is someone who’s been in my world for maybe about, I think a year and a half is when you started, you came into the movement. And then came into the mastermind and it’s been such an honor and privilege to be your coach and to witness your entire journey of really starting your coaching business, growing your coaching business, evolving in how you manifest.

[00:00:35] Jamie: And I am so excited to have you on because Carla is the Catholic life coach. So, uh, she brings her. Love and devotion to Catholicism and her faith into the manifestation process. And Carla recently did a podcast episode on her podcast. Your podcast is called the life coach or the Catholic life coach [00:01:00] podcast, the Catholic life coach podcast, um, where she talked about Being Catholic and manifesting.

[00:01:06] Jamie: And I thought it was so good. I was like, Carla, let’s get on the podcast. I want to talk about, this is for anyone, whether you’re Catholic or religious or not, but how can you bring your faith to life? into your process. And I think you are such a beautiful example of how you do that. And I wanted to dive into that today and talk further about it.

[00:01:29] Jamie: So welcome Carla. 

[00:01:32] Karla: Thank you, Jamie. So much. Thanks for having me. I’m so excited about this podcast. Yeah. Uh, yeah. My name is Carla Fitz. I’m the Catholic life coach. Um, and yeah, I’m the host of the Catholic life coach podcast. And I do, I love all things manifestations because I think for me, I kind of had that same thought of like, Oh, I don’t know if this is for me at the beginning when I first heard about you.

[00:01:54] Karla: Yeah. And I feel like the more we’ve worked together and the more I’ve learned about manifestation, [00:02:00] I’ve learned to translate it into our faith. And it’s just, it’s been such a fun process to see my life evolve and transform. Yeah. Yeah. 

[00:02:08] Jamie: Well, and I want to talk about that evolution because when we met, you didn’t, you weren’t niched in the Catholic life coach.

[00:02:17] Jamie: You, I remember we actually coached through that and you kind of, you got that clarity that that is exactly what you wanted to do. So what were you doing before? And I’m curious, did you always bring your faith into what you were doing as a coach or is it something that’s evolved over time? Yeah.

[00:02:37] Jamie: Absolutely. 

[00:02:38] Karla: Yeah, it was something that I evolved over time because it was something that I was trying to maintain for myself, but I was not bringing into the business. So I was doing weight loss because the way I started in life coaching was weight loss. I came in, met my very first life coach. And, um, after six months I had lost 85 pounds and it was just an insane transformation from the very [00:03:00] beginning.

[00:03:00] Karla: So that was super powerful for me. And then I fell in love with life coaching. And so I thought I would just go in and do weight loss. Because it seemed to make sense. And I want to put it in quote, because that’s like our human brain trying to take control and say, no, this is what makes sense. Um, and yeah, I remember when we started working together, one of the first things we coached was actually starting the life coach, the Catholic life coach podcast.

[00:03:25] Karla: And I remember just thinking like, Oh, I don’t know if this is the right niche for me. But it’s what I love, what I have loved about it is that the more I have stepped into that calling and into that true part of me, things have just developed naturally. And then I have been able to show up in so in a much better way than if I was just denying that truth about myself.

[00:03:47] Jamie: Yes. Oh my gosh. Okay. So I want to kind of unpack this because I think it’s super common, especially in the beginning. And I can relate to this because I picked it. The niche that made sense. Or I just, and it’s great because I think action [00:04:00] creates clarity. So it’s better to pick something and start moving and go for something than be in our head and wait for what we think is our calling when we’re like, it’s not coming and I’m not sure.

[00:04:10] Jamie: So I always say action creates clarity, but I’m curious what the difference felt like for you where you said, I picked that niche because it made sense versus this feels like a calling. How, what’s the difference in the way that 

[00:04:23] Karla: Jamie said? What? I’m so sorry. I lost you for some reason. 

[00:04:27] Jamie: Oh, oh, totally fine.

[00:04:30] Jamie: We’ll reset. Okay. I’m so sorry. You know, it’s okay. I’ll just start that question over. Okay. All good. Yeah. So, so what I’m curious about is Actually, I’ll just start the whole thing because I’m not sure where to stop. Um, I’m not going to start the whole podcast, but that whole section. No, you were talking about like you went through the same thing about your niche.

[00:04:50] Jamie: Okay. Yeah. So I’ll just reset there. Yeah. So I went through something similar where I picked a niche out of what made sense. And [00:05:00] I think that, you know, I always say it is good to actually pick something rather than not pick something. Don’t wait till you have the perfect niche or you find your calling, because it actually is a lot of times action that creates clarity.

[00:05:13] Jamie: Like we always say, you can’t steer a parked car, so it can be helpful to just pick something, even if it is from your head. But it’s interesting, just like as you’ve pointed out the difference in how it feels when you pick something from your head and what feels like you should do or what feels like it makes sense versus what feels like a calling.

[00:05:32] Jamie: And you mentioned that this just feels really natural. So I’m curious, what do you feel is the difference between the two and how did you get to a place where you did discover what your calling is, what your purpose is? 

[00:05:50] Karla: Okay, so my journey was a little bit different. I feel like it’s kind of funny because when I first certified from the CAP, from the life care school.

[00:05:57] Karla: My very, very first goal was to create a [00:06:00] business that was centered on my faith. It was to support Catholic women. It’s Oh my gosh, I 

[00:06:06] Jamie: feel like that happens where we write something down or we say this is what we want to do. And then it comes full circle because we kind of like either totally forget we decided to do that or we just put it off.

[00:06:17] Jamie: That’s wild. Yeah. 

[00:06:18] Karla: And so that, that was a little bit different for me, but that’s what I love. You go on this journey and yes, you open up to trying new things, but God ultimately is like, I got you. You know, you’re just, you’ll come right back. Um, and that’s exactly what happened to me. But I think what, what changed was that my coaching is completely different because I’ve been like involved, got into it.

[00:06:39] Karla: And then the way I think about coaching has always made. It’s so much more sense to me with him in the middle. 

[00:06:46] Jamie: Yeah. 

[00:06:46] Karla: Whereas when I was trying to like see it as a secular or not involving God, it just didn’t make sense for me. And so I think that was the thing that changed everything because then I was able to coach naturally.

[00:06:58] Karla: I wasn’t fighting like, Oh, what [00:07:00] am I saying? I don’t want to mess something up. Or, and even in the podcast, that’s what I started noticing. The more I stepped into my faith and how I see things, Things just come out the way I believe them instead of editing myself, because I think that’s what I was doing a lot of is editing myself.

[00:07:16] Karla: Yes. So 

[00:07:18] Jamie: I love this so much. How do you bring God in the middle? 

[00:07:23] Karla: Okay. So basically for me, anything that comes to you, like a calling or a desire, I fully believe that has been placed there by him for a reason. And, um, with life coaching, we have given, we have been given authority in our thoughts, in our emotions.

[00:07:43] Karla: in order to show up in a way that empowers us rather than makes us feel small and unkeepable or incapable. And with him in the middle of things just kind of makes sense. Like to me, I always think of God doesn’t want us to be in here suffering in our brain. And [00:08:00] so when I bring him into the picture, it’s like, it’s so much to me, it’s just easier to talk about life coaching from a perspective of the point of life coaching is to overcome the thoughts that are just causing insane amount of pain that he ultimately does not want us.

[00:08:14] Karla: To, to, to feel. 

[00:08:15] Jamie: Yeah. 

[00:08:16] Karla: And he, it doesn’t help us to serve him because it’s just, we waste so much time. I call it the whole, the whole of like, I don’t know what I’m, what I want to do. I don’t know what I’m feeling. And I believe all the lies that are in my brain. If that 

[00:08:29] Jamie: makes 

[00:08:30] Karla: sense, a 

[00:08:30] Jamie: hundred percent. How do you, what is that look like when you say, I bring God in the middle?

[00:08:36] Jamie: Is it an intention? Do you open up? Is it a prayer? What does that look like for you? 

[00:08:42] Karla: So for me, I do prayer time right before where I just go to the Holy spirit so that I’m led by God to guide my clients. That’s one thing. But personally, I think that’s the biggest shift. It has been. Thank you. Personally for me how I manifest how I meditate for me is like a lot of [00:09:00] time in prayer with the Eucharist and I just go into mass and I celebrate with God and then a lot of like the meditation part of it is so much asking him and connecting with him what it is that He wants for me and how does he want me to move next?

[00:09:16] Karla: And I, one of the, the, I’m not saying traditions, um, Oh, it’s a called practices that I love to, is like connecting with our future self. Um, because to me, that practice is, is stepping into, we’ve already reached that desire that he put in our hearts and how is he calling us to act? And then I love asking for confirmation.

[00:09:37] Karla: That’s my thing too. It’s like, okay, is this what you want from me? And not in a weird, like, Oh, make the light blink twice. Not like that. Give me a sign. Yes. That’s not what I mean. But I mean, like, he’s very persistent and that’s what I tell my clients too. When you have something in your heart, he will be persistent in that he wants you to pursue this thing.

[00:09:58] Karla: Totally. Totally. 

[00:09:59] Jamie: [00:10:00] Yeah. You can feel that with desires, right? Those things that you keep pushing away, but it doesn’t go away. And I love that. It’s like, yeah, that’s because maybe God’s knocking on your door. Like, hello. Yes. 

[00:10:12] Karla: Well, and that’s the amazing thing. It’s like the, that’s my thing with my goal. My original goal was to be the Catholic life coach.

[00:10:19] Karla: I just didn’t know I was going to have that title. And God is like, okay. Hey, it’s right here. But when our minds are so close to receiving that information, we just, it doesn’t come. 

[00:10:31] Jamie: Yeah. How has that changed your coaching sessions? Um, if you, from maybe, I don’t know, did you always pray before? Did you always bring God?

[00:10:39] Jamie: Okay. So what, how have you noticed that shifting the way that you coach? 

[00:10:44] Karla: I just think prayer just helps me calm down into focusing on my clients and focusing on what they’re saying instead of focusing in what I’m thinking or feeling. It just helps me to recenter on like, this is my, this is what I’m doing.

[00:10:59] Karla: This is how I’m [00:11:00] supporting them. 

[00:11:00] Jamie: Yeah. 

[00:11:01] Karla: Um, and empowering them. It just helps me to just, Yeah, come back into center. 

[00:11:05] Jamie: Yes. Beautiful. Yeah. I do a similar practice. It’s like an opening up. It’s an intention to open up to God and channel, like what’s meant to come through in sessions. And I can feel it. I can feel the difference too.

[00:11:19] Jamie: Like I feel like Some of the stuff I sometimes say, I’m like, wait, what? That’s not even like what I would normally say or like, Oh, that’s interesting. That came through. That’s also what I need. It’s not, you know what I mean? So yeah, there’s some power to that 

[00:11:33] Karla: for sure. And I do the same thing with the podcast.

[00:11:36] Karla: And you were actually one of the ones that said this to me that changed my life. When you said. Um, Oh, I don’t over plan for my podcast. I let it come to me and I’m like, wait, that’s allowed. And so then I just, I just started like praying the prayer to the Holy spirit right before the podcast. And I just.

[00:11:54] Karla: Trust that he’s going to tell me what I’m supposed to say, and he does. Wow. 

[00:11:58] Jamie: And you’re able to surrender [00:12:00] into that. Yes. How have you allowed that to happen? Because I know what a lot of people, whether religious or not, right? Or whether it’s like they, whatever it is that makes them feel like, More open and expansive, whether they call that God or he or universe or however they identify with it.

[00:12:17] Jamie: I’m just curious because I know a lot of people have that relationship with God or something bigger, greater than them. And the thing is, they don’t trust it. They don’t trust that it’s going to come. So I’ll say like, whatever, sometimes whenever I say that to people, I’m like, yeah, I don’t really plan webinars till like an hour before I don’t.

[00:12:37] Jamie: And also I want to also say that with, I have a lot of experience, so I have developed, you know what I mean? Back in the past, I wouldn’t have been able to, cause I wasn’t developed enough. So I have enough experience at this point that. It can come through with more ease. But sometimes whenever I say that to people, even people who are developed and have done a million webinars and things and podcasts, they’re like, Oh [00:13:00] my gosh, that’s terrifying.

[00:13:01] Jamie: There’s no way I could do that. Right. How did you get to the place? And probably like when I initially said it to you, I’m sure you were like, wait, what? 

[00:13:11] Karla: I don’t know. You just gave me permission. You busted it. Yeah, so I’m going to kind of go into what I think the process of manifestation is from my perspective, because I think it answers this question.

[00:13:23] Karla: Um, because to me, the process of manifestation, the way I like to call manifestation is co creating with God, right? Like we’re just simply letting ourselves work together with God so that he can bring into creation what he wants created in the world. And we just, we’re doing this thing, this, I call it the dance where God’s like sitting in the car.

[00:13:43] Karla: He’s driving. I’m sitting right next to him. I’m the co pilot and I have to show up in order to move the thing as well. Right. But to me, the process of manifestation involves four steps and the first one is trust. The very first one is learn to trust that first he’s put that desire in your heart, [00:14:00] that he’s going to show up for you, that he loves you more than anything.

[00:14:04] Karla: And then the second one is surrender. And that one has been one of the hardest ones to get used to. I think the trust has come a little bit easier in that he’s never failed me. But the surrender part is hard because I think our humanity is like, no, I want to take control and lead the thing and move the thing forward so that I can get there faster.

[00:14:25] Karla: And we think we’re going to get there faster if we’re in control, but we don’t, it just moves a lot slower. 

[00:14:30] Jamie: Yeah. 

[00:14:31] Karla: Uh, and so, yeah, the, yeah, the next part is surrender. And then, um, the third is belief and the fifth is receive. But there, those are like four steps that I think. It beautifully sums up manifestation when he’s in the middle is like you trust that he’s gonna show up for you that he’s guiding you.

[00:14:49] Jamie: Yeah. 

[00:14:50] Karla: And that surrender I think is a big piece of like putting it to him into what the timing is going to be the way that it’s going to happen, and [00:15:00] the beautiful how of how it’s gonna happen. Yeah. Oh, I want to 

[00:15:04] Jamie: answer that is quick. Your question. Totally. Yeah. A hundred percent. So it sounds like this it’s you had developed the trust or you already, that felt solid for you, but it was the surrender piece that you had to work with.

[00:15:15] Jamie: And how is it that you did that when it came to the podcast specifically? 

[00:15:22] Karla: Yeah. So, yeah, I think I had it with different areas of my life. So I was just looking at the, um, the evidence that I had so far. 

[00:15:30] Jamie: Um, 

[00:15:31] Karla: but honestly, I think it was a trial and error because at least with the podcast, I started the podcast with scripting everything and putting everything perfectly together.

[00:15:41] Karla: And what I started feeling is that I felt insanely restricted. And I just could not function and then I sounded like a machine and I’m like, and then it took me like seven hours. I remember to, to record it and edit the very first, wow, that’s some dedication. It was awful. Yeah. [00:16:00] So I was like, okay, something is wrong, like something in this cannot be this difficult.

[00:16:04] Karla: And then I just remember praying about it and God is like, It’s not you who’s showing up, like, I’m going to be there with you. It’s like, you can trust that I’m going to give you what you’re going to talk about. And then that that’s going to come through. And the more, but the thing is like, we practice, right?

[00:16:22] Karla: It doesn’t just come, it came with a trial and error of like, this is way too much work for what I signed up for. And then I’m like, okay, I’m just gonna take a step back. So what I started doing was, I remember I was like bullet pointing everything. 

[00:16:36] Jamie: Yeah. 

[00:16:36] Karla: To try to have a little control. But then I, a little bit, a little was like, okay, what happens if I just let go?

[00:16:41] Karla: Yeah. And so I just got curious. And then I did, I remember I was like, okay, what do you want to talk about today? And I just, he would just give it to me. The manifestation podcast was that way. It’s like this whole week last week was all about manifesting. Wow. So go. Yes. Yeah. And is it? Yeah. And then like, you just practice that and you just, 

[00:16:59] Jamie: I 

[00:16:59] Karla: think it just [00:17:00] grows little by little.

[00:17:00] Karla: I don’t think it’s a. Yeah. 

[00:17:02] Jamie: Yeah. Yep. And that’s, that’s the way that I try to approach it and coach on it. Like you said, it grows little by little, so it’s not like you have to go from like totally scripting something out for seven hours. You know, to like, just channeling it, you know, opening yourself up and right.

[00:17:21] Jamie: Like, but it’s like, what if I could trust just 1 percent more? Or what, what would 1 percent more of surrender look like? And over time, then you develop that. And then you see that you can trust it. And like you said, that evidence really helps too. Once you start seeing that you can actually do it. 

[00:17:38] Karla: Yeah, and then you’ve been provided because I think the evidence piece is such a big thing When you’re in the process of manifesting that dream or that goal Yeah to me is like that’s a huge thing like you’re just counting every bit of it And I know that sometimes it’s hard to because we’re like, oh, we’re not there yet But to me it just blows to my mind how when you just let go of it.

[00:17:58] Karla: He just [00:18:00] He gives it to you. Like, it’s just so much easier to just let go and trust and just know that it’s coming. You can just remember that. Yes, if only. 

[00:18:10] Jamie: Right? Let go. It’s so much easier. Totally. So I’m curious because, so I took one of my Favorite classes of all of my college. So I went to college for like fashion and retail merchandising, but I had to take this class called practices of religion.

[00:18:29] Jamie: I don’t exactly remember why I had to take it, but I did. And I took it over a, um, winter, it was like a winter, Break, like intensive, basically it was like a three, three week thing. And it was my favorite class of all of college. Like obviously it makes sense now why I love it. Yeah. But what I loved is we studied so many different religions and at that time I was sort of starting to get into manifestation, not to the point of like where I am now, but I had [00:19:00] read some manifestation books.

[00:19:01] Jamie: And things like that. And I remember seeing in so many different religions, I’d be like, Oh, that reminds me of manifestation. Oh, they say it in that way. And that reminds me of manifestation. And Oh my gosh, that’s like a universal law, but they say it in that way. And I’m wondering within. You know, the Catholic religion, are there things that you hear or learn or maybe are even in the Bible that you’re like, Oh my gosh, this is so aligned with what I’ve learned in the movement or in the mastermind in terms of like universal laws and the things that I talk about.

[00:19:35] Karla: Yeah. So I think that one that comes to mind. because you were one that helped me to learn how to do this and it’s a surrender. So we have, um, we have a novena. It’s like a nine day prayer that is called the surrender novena. And it is my absolute favorite prayer ever because it’s basically saying, okay, Jesus, you take care of it.

[00:19:57] Karla: Like that is the prayer that we repeat all of the time. 

[00:19:59] Jamie: [00:20:00] Yeah. 

[00:20:00] Karla: And for me, that was the one that fits so well when it came to manifestation, because in that prayer is God is asking us to give it to him. Like, okay, bring it to me and then I’ll take care of it. And so I think that’s one of the things that it just fits so well with manifestation when it’s like, um, he’s, he’s saying, okay, I’ve given you this desire, so give it back and I will work through it with you.

[00:20:24] Karla: Yes. Um, and I think it just fits so beautifully because that’s the thing it’s when it comes to like, I’m trying to think, um, like one of the laws is like the law of attraction, right? And you’re, yeah. You’re attracting those things to you. But I, the way I see it, it’s like, we’re attracting things with our own minds.

[00:20:43] Karla: We’re always creating, I’m always saying this to my clients, you are creating, whether you like it or not. And so to me, it’s like, when you’re focusing your attention on the lack, you will see more of it. But when you see, when you focus on the blessings in the, the gifts that [00:21:00] he’s giving you in this moment, in this particular moment, you see more of it.

[00:21:04] Karla: And so like, that’s how I, that’s how I understand the law, the, all the laws is just translated into that language. Yes. A hundred percent. But to me, it’s like, ultimately what God wants from us is to serve him and surrender to him. And to me, it’s like, if we don’t practice that surrender. We don’t do either.

[00:21:25] Karla: We suffer, we struggle, we are stuck in our heads, and then we don’t serve. At least not to the potential we could. 

[00:21:30] Jamie: Right, 

[00:21:31] Karla: right. Totally. 

[00:21:33] Jamie: Why do you think people leave And, and I know in terms of my listeners, I have a wide variety of listeners. Some people are religious. Some people are not religious. Some people are more spiritual than others.

[00:21:49] Jamie: And I mean, overall, I would say everyone’s probably slightly spiritual at least and open to it because manifestation, but [00:22:00] yeah. For those that do have faith in God or a higher power, or think of it as like universal love, however it resonates for you. And I’m just wondering in terms of your clients, like why do you think people forget about God and leave God out of certain things?

[00:22:23] Karla: I think it’s that need of control. I think it’s our fault and humanity of, uh, wanting to fix it ourselves. And I think that’s one of the mistakes that I have heard that I heard a lot before I got into manifestation. And I also believe this, that manifestation was all about ourselves, like figuring it out on our own, which is a horrible misunderstanding.

[00:22:44] Karla: Um, But I think that is the part of it is because it is so hard to just simply let go. 

[00:22:51] Jamie: Yeah, 

[00:22:52] Karla: especially when you’re going through a rough time, you just want to hold on to it. But I think we forget that God is for us, not against [00:23:00] us. Like he is protecting us. He’s guiding us. He’s loving us. He’s providing.

[00:23:06] Karla: And I think that’s the mistake is like believing. I think that’s what happens is we believe we’re on our own. We have to fix it on our own. 

[00:23:12] Jamie: Totally. 

[00:23:13] Karla: And yeah, I think that’s, that’s the main thing is that we forget that God is an all loving God. Yes. Yes. A hundred percent. And 

[00:23:20] Jamie: I mean, I know that even for myself, like I would forget that I could bring it into everything, whether, you know, with manifestation, with God, with my spirituality, it’s like I had for most of my life, I would bring it into all of these areas of my life and manifest incredible things and had just, it was, it, It brings so much when you have that in your life, but there were certain areas I left it out of like with initially my relationship with my body and weight loss, like, no, I have to do that on my own.

[00:23:52] Jamie: And that’s hard. Also with business. Also with my relationship with money. It’s like I left it out of those things and [00:24:00] almost forgot. That I have this superpower and this resource that I can bring in a big resource too. Yeah. I guess that’s what you call it. Like the most incredible resource of all time that I’m not even utilizing.

[00:24:16] Jamie: And it’s like, I noticed, cause it was like after that hundred K year where I really burnt myself out and I really kind of hustled my way there. I did a lot of mindset work, but I did not bring. My spirituality, I didn’t bring God and I didn’t bring manifestation into it. And I made that shift after that year and my business has completely changed since then.

[00:24:39] Jamie: So I think it’s a good question if you’re a person of faith to ask yourself, where am I leaving this out? You know, I think that’s one of the most powerful questions and how can I bring it in? 

[00:24:53] Karla: Yeah. Yeah. Because in everything we can bring him in absolutely everything and everything just gets so much easier.

[00:24:58] Karla: I cannot imagine my [00:25:00] relationship with my husband without him in the middle 

[00:25:02] Jamie: or 

[00:25:02] Karla: my motherhood without him in the middle. 

[00:25:03] Jamie: Yeah. 

[00:25:04] Karla: Um, but I think it’s easy, for example, in our business, they leave him out of the picture because it’s like, well, this is our business. We’re supposed to figure it out. 

[00:25:11] Jamie: Yeah. 

[00:25:12] Karla: And truly it’s not.

[00:25:13] Karla: I just had a moment this past week where I was, I was in doing my holy hour in, I’m like, God, I can’t. Why have you not? Like, I’m like, I want you to bless my business. And he like popped into my head. It’s like, you haven’t asked me to. And it’s like, and I’m like, Oh my gosh, I have not asked him to. And what blows my mind is that when I trust him, he just shows up and gives me the thing.

[00:25:37] Karla: I had the, I just had a couple of weeks ago, and this was the podcast that I did because I had it in my head. I want to take a trip before my third baby’s born. And I’m like, I just, I want to take a trip with my girls. And I had planned it and I’m planned and I’m planned it some more, but I did not ask him anything.

[00:25:54] Jamie: Yeah. 

[00:25:55] Karla: And then I’m like, wait, we were looking into it. And somehow [00:26:00] our, um, cabin that we had rented was in the middle of absolutely nowhere. And seven hours from here, and I’m seven and a half months pregnant. So I’m like, this is a terrible idea. So that night we’re like, okay, God, you know what? Like you take care of it because if we are supposed to have a trip, we’re going to take it.

[00:26:16] Karla: And that night we signed up to go to Florida in a month. And it was like way cheaper than going to Missouri, which is insane. And then having, we rented, I’m from 

[00:26:26] Jamie: Missouri, I would take Florida. 

[00:26:28] Karla: I know. And then, no, we’re like three minutes away from the beach, could not have planned it better. And it was not something that I didn’t expect to be able to go and do but God is like, Okay, thank you.

[00:26:41] Karla: I’ve got it from here. It 

[00:26:43] Jamie: can be so much better when we bring that in and we when we remember and I think that’s the key is just continuously remembering because As humans, we forget, you know, and yeah, actually like that’s reminding me of a story of something that [00:27:00] recently happened to me too, where I also did a similar practice.

[00:27:04] Jamie: So my condo, we bought the condo about a year and a half ago and initially it was amazing. And unfortunately, I mean, this is so it’s tragic for the whole island, but there was the massive fires in Lahaina and it’s really caused. So many, you know, people lost their homes, but also tourism has gone down. So the whole Island’s really struggling people who still have their homes, but work in tourism.

[00:27:31] Jamie: And, you know, there’s not very many bookings and things like that. Like the actual economy has gone down by like 25 percent since that happened in Maui. So it’s a tragedy, right? And we had bought our condo. It was new. And right after that happened, no bookings at all. Right. Like half the people canceled.

[00:27:50] Jamie: And it’s been a year since then. And still people are still like, our neighbors are all like, yeah, we are getting, it’s half the prices we used to charge and we’re getting half the bookings. [00:28:00] And I just decided I was going to surrender it. Cause I’m like, there’s no, what can I do about this? You know, I was like, I’m going to surrender it and I’m just going to bless.

[00:28:08] Jamie: Every person who does come, I’m going to bless the condo. I’m going to bless every person who does come energetically, of course, because I don’t even like I have a rental manager. I don’t even talk to them or anything, but I just bless it every day. And I’ve been blessing the people. And I swear to you, Carla, we had.

[00:28:26] Jamie: Zero bookings in August. I started this practice and I look at Airbnb and I’m like, what literally just happened? It is fully booked in August. Which makes no sense cause August is actually a pretty, like the low season. And then it started getting bookings. I’m like, what is actually happening? Like, all I’m doing is blessing the condo and blessing and giving gratitude for the people who are there.

[00:28:51] Jamie: And it wasn’t coming from urgency of it needs to book more. It was like, it’s fine. Like, you know, and yeah, it’s just, 

[00:28:59] Karla: Yeah. [00:29:00] That blows my mind. Well, and I just, okay. Another story was this past weekend when you texted to do this podcast, because I had it in my head, similar thing of like, how do I calculate this thing?

[00:29:12] Karla: So that eventually it happened because I was like, this was one of my awesome to be on her podcast someday. And I had to create this timeline of how long it was going to take and what I need to achieve in order to. And then when you texted me to do this podcast about. Manifestation with Catholicism. I’m like, I just laughed because I’m like, I just love how when I let you take care of it, you’re like, there you go.

[00:29:37] Karla: This is what I needed to do. And that’s the thing is like, that’s the trust that comes into play too, is trusting that he’s, he’s leading us there for a reason. 

[00:29:46] Jamie: Yeah. 

[00:29:46] Karla: And that is going to turn out better. Yeah. No matter what. 

[00:29:50] Jamie: So if you were to give advice to people who want to do this more often, but are like, How do I do it?

[00:29:57] Jamie: What could I do? What’s some ways that I could bring this into my [00:30:00] business? What advice would you have? Do you have any ideas or practices? 

[00:30:04] Karla: Yeah, I think, yeah, so for me is that prayer time, that quiet time where you just connect with God and ask him and then just give him gratitude ahead of time. That’s one of my favorite practices is just practicing gratitude ahead of time.

[00:30:19] Karla: Even when you don’t see the evidence, just know that he’s leading you there for a reason. Um, and then my other thing is like, This is, this is a partnership. He is God. He knows better. And I think that’s the reminder we need to have for ourselves is that even when it doesn’t make sense, he has the right timing 

[00:30:38] Jamie: for 

[00:30:38] Karla: everything, um, in a better way for everything.

[00:30:42] Karla: And most of the time it’s easier. So just trust that it’s going to be easier at the end. Um, but it is a partnership and it is, it’s a. It’s a given, is the giving and receiving, I just thought the episode of friends come in my head. Um, because one of my favorite [00:31:00] lines is a quote from, um, St. Augustine, um, is without God, I can’t, without me, he won’t, and I just love that line because I think we spend so much time trying to take control, but we need to trust that.

[00:31:17] Karla: We can’t do it without him. But if we don’t move, he also won’t do it. Yeah. 

[00:31:24] Jamie: That’s so good. I love it. Okay, so I have another question for you because I have heard, um, Well, I’ve had clients who have asked me who, um, both Catholic and Christian, who have said, you know, in the Bible, it says we shouldn’t manifest in some way.

[00:31:44] Jamie: I haven’t exactly seen the words or the line that they’re referring to, but they think that it’s against the Christian religion to manifest. Do you have any idea what, why they’re saying that or what, [00:32:00] um, what the interpretation of that is that might be misinterpreted? I don’t know. 

[00:32:04] Karla: Okay, so the way I’ve researched and the way I’ve talked about with my spiritual director too, is manifestation is literally creating.

[00:32:12] Karla: You explained it that way too. Totally. It’s like we are bringing God’s desire for the world and the works that he needs done in the world. In the world to be created, right? To be manifested. That is what it’s called. And in the Bible, like the way I’ve always seen it is the word manifestation or manifest.

[00:32:29] Karla: It’s God’s work being done in, on earth. 

[00:32:31] Jamie: Yeah. 

[00:32:32] Karla: That’s how I’ve always understood it. And I think that’s just, that helps me clarify that in my head. Um, but I’m missing something else that was said. What was the other piece that you said? 

[00:32:43] Jamie: Um, just, is there anything within the Bible that’s, or is it, why, why, why people, or like, is there Oh, that we’re 

[00:32:51] Karla: not supposed to manifest.

[00:32:53] Karla: Okay. Yeah. So that was the part I didn’t want to miss because I think the misunderstanding is that we’re manifesting what we want [00:33:00] in our timing, in our way. Yeah. That we’re not supposed to do. Because we don’t know what’s best for us and we don’t have that power. So the, the, the clarification we need to remind ourselves is that we don’t have that power is we’re co creating.

[00:33:16] Karla: So we’re basically just. opening ourselves up for what it is that God is calling us to do, and we’re taking actions in alignment to who he is and whom he’s calling us to be, rather than doing it on our own. Because I think that’s the biggest mistake when it comes to manifestation and what I believed manifestation was until I met you, that it’s just You do it on your own.

[00:33:37] Karla: It’s your way, your timing, and you force things to happen. And that’s not how it works. At least it’s not the way it should work. 

[00:33:46] Jamie: That’s not how I teach it. That’s not how I practice it. And I think it is totally a misconception. And I always, the way that I describe that is like, where are you manifesting from?

[00:33:56] Jamie: Is it the ego? Right. Cause we can feel that that’s when we’re [00:34:00] trying to do it on our own. When we’re doing what we think we need to do to be worthy, successful X, Y, or Z. It’s not a true soul desire. How do you, and the way that you mentioned it was, you know, when you’re just, how did you say it? You said, we’re not manifesting on our own or it’s not what we want.

[00:34:18] Jamie: It’s what God wants. How do you know the difference? 

[00:34:22] Karla: Oh, I think that’s the persistency of God. And then like, also, I think the biggest thing for me is that it’s. It’s not just for me. It’s not like a selfish desire. 

[00:34:32] Jamie: Yeah. There’s 

[00:34:32] Karla: always a sacrifice involved, at least that’s how it’s been for me. There’s something that I really, really want.

[00:34:36] Karla: Like for me, my goal is to start traveling with our family. Yep. And be in Italy for as long as we possibly can. But there’s a sacrifice involved in that. And then there’s a sacrifice in like, okay, if that’s really what you want, you have to become this kind of person. 

[00:34:50] Jamie: Yeah. 

[00:34:52] Karla: Rather than just a selfish desire of like, I saw money.

[00:34:54] Karla: I don’t know. It’s just, it’s something that is asking us, he’s asking us to grow. [00:35:00] Yeah, and that’s what I love about it too, is he’s asking us to develop into that next level. Right. And trust him. It requires us to trust him. 

[00:35:08] Jamie: Yeah. Yeah. Because I think 

[00:35:09] Karla: anytime we’re trying to manifest without him, it doesn’t feel that way.

[00:35:12] Karla: It’s just like we’re in control 

[00:35:15] Jamie: trying to force it to 

[00:35:15] Karla: happen. 

[00:35:16] Jamie: Right. We’re trying to force it to happen. Exactly. Yes, a hundred percent. Done it both ways. I’ve tried it both ways. It doesn’t work very well from the ego and I’ve tried it many times, right? Or it can work, but you actually, you’ll get there and you don’t feel the fulfillment of what you think you’ll actually, you know what I mean?

[00:35:35] Jamie: Like it’s not giving you what you actually want because it’s not a true. You know, like you’re saying like God’s desire for you or like a soul desire and the way that I, for me, the way that I attuned to it is like, what do I really want if, if it’s, there’s no shoulds. If there’s no way I [00:36:00] should do it, there’s no way that’s better than the other way.

[00:36:03] Jamie: Like, what do I actually feel called to do? What do I actually feel called to create? What, what lights me up when I actually think of the vision, like. If the vision doesn’t light you up, 

[00:36:15] Karla: I don’t know, right? And I think it’s, again, one of the things that I have loved is that forces when we align ourselves up with what we truly, truly want, which he’s going to put it in our hearts, we’re going to know.

[00:36:27] Jamie: And 

[00:36:28] Karla: you find that clarity. Then you have this, it’s one of the hardest thing I think in our faith to do and to, to settle into, and it is that our reliance in him. 

[00:36:40] Jamie: Yeah. 

[00:36:41] Karla: That I think is really, that’s a key point. It’s like, we rely on him to reach this goal, but it does light us up ultimately. Like there is just a feeling inside of you that even though it’s hard and it seems crazy, you can’t stop thinking about it.

[00:36:57] Karla: And this is, this is Jimmy’s like, 

[00:36:59] Jamie: yep, that’s his [00:37:00] thing. Totally. Totally. I love that so much. 

[00:37:03] Karla: Yeah. And the confirmation. Like if you’re not sure, come back, pray some more. Let him guide you because he will confirm it. 

[00:37:12] Jamie: Yeah. 

[00:37:13] Karla: And what ways do you see that happening? His, his, I love calling it his persistence because example, my niche, that was the first desire of my life and then he got us like, yeah, okay, go your way.

[00:37:26] Karla: Go do your thing. And then he’s like, are you missing anything? Yeah. And then I would be like, okay, I feel like I’m missing something. What are you missing? Yeah. I mean, he just lets you come this. I love that guy coaches us through life. This is by the way, when you were talking about how it affected my business too, or my coaching, that’s the thing.

[00:37:43] Karla: I always feel like our clients, and I hear this from you all the time too. When you say things to me, I’m like, oh my gosh, she was hanging out with God. Cause he just said that to me. And it keeps happening. Yeah. But is that alignment? If you 

[00:37:57] Jamie: keep, I’ve heard this story, if you hear something three [00:38:00] times or more, like it’s time to pay attention.

[00:38:03] Jamie: It doesn’t mean you have to pay attention. If something’s happening like three times in a row, it means pay attention. 

[00:38:10] Karla: Yes. Well, you were like, I remember that session with you and you’re like, I’m like, I just don’t know if I’m supposed to be the Catholic life coach. And you’re like, well, what is it? What?

[00:38:19] Karla: What is it required to be the Catholic life coach? You have to be a Catholic and you have to be a life coach. And I was like, Oh, good heavens. I need to be the Catholic life coach. Cause you were scared of stepping into that. Yes, I was. I was very scared of stepping into it. It felt like a, like big shoes to fill.

[00:38:36] Jamie: I 

[00:38:37] Karla: think that’s what it was. And it still feels that way, but I just trust him that there’s a reason why he has me here. And so it’s just, he’s leading the thing. So 

[00:38:45] Jamie: yeah, and it’s the becoming too, right? Cause that’s why sometimes it feels scary because there is a becoming, we have to shift our identity and how we see ourselves and all of these things and be willing to become it, which is stretchy and it doesn’t always feel uncomfortable.

[00:38:59] Jamie: And we have [00:39:00] to lean into that trust, surrender, receive, right? 

[00:39:04] Karla: Yeah. 100%. Because it is uncomfortable. I mean, I remember like stepping into the microphone and the camera and recording, it’s just like, Oh my gosh, what am I doing? Yeah. Um, and now it’s just like, it’s my favorite thing in the world to do. Just sit behind the mic and record the podcast.

[00:39:20] Karla: Yup. But it doesn’t come from one day to the other. It’s just, you become that person. And, and I do love the healing process. That’s how I always explain coaching too, is you have a process. You taught me this. Um, go figure. But you told me that, yeah, from the person you are today to the person whom you’re wanting to become your future self, there is a lot of steps of healing.

[00:39:44] Karla: And that’s why I think it’s so beautiful to combine life coaching with our faith because we don’t heal ourselves. Yeah. Like God is healing us in every step, but then we have that person that is guiding us without believing our lies and our [00:40:00] resistance and our own thoughts. Yes. Amen. And it’s just, you’re, you’re creating that healing with God as well.

[00:40:06] Karla: Yes. Oh my gosh. I love that so 

[00:40:08] Jamie: much. So fun. And you know what I was just thinking? I think this is why we, we have these desires that feel impossible oftentimes. So many of almost all of my clients are working on something that feels kind of impossible, but I think it’s placed there for us because then we get to the place where we’re like, It doesn’t make logical sense.

[00:40:36] Jamie: It’s almost like you have to have faith and like know that, okay, this wasn’t all me that created this and I couldn’t do this from all of me. So it strengthens our faith. 

[00:40:51] Karla: I think the thing that’s popping in my head right now is the other piece of this is our age. I think we get to a point where we start overthinking everything in our [00:41:00] minds.

[00:41:00] Karla: Yeah. Because I, when I remember when I was 16, I decided to leave my country, Venezuela. And then it’s just like, I didn’t care. I’m like, I’m going to stay in the U. S. How? I don’t know. God will figure it out. Yup. And he just he did. And that’s my memory of it. But when you’re younger, you don’t have all of these misconceptions and beliefs about yourself that need to be healed.

[00:41:21] Karla: And then it’s like, no, we just trust that is there for a reason, even though it doesn’t make any sense to anyone else. 

[00:41:28] Jamie: Right. 

[00:41:28] Karla: Or yourself sometimes. 

[00:41:30] Jamie: Totally. A hundred percent. Yes. Our logical mind is like, how is that going to happen? How am I going to get from here to there? And yet if you lean into this, it happens.

[00:41:38] Jamie: I mean, I am still blown away thinking about my life. Like if my 15 year old self, it’s all what I’ve created. It would have been like, Wow. And there is no, I don’t know. It like things happened, but I believe in it. Yeah. Yes. We’re 

[00:41:55] Karla: just open to taking that next step and trusting that that next step will lead somewhere [00:42:00] else.

[00:42:00] Karla: Like, which is, yeah. Oh, my God. Well, 

[00:42:03] Jamie: I love you, Carla. And I want everyone to know where they can find you, how they could work with you. If they’re interested in working with you as a Catholic life coach, please share all the things. 

[00:42:16] Karla: Yeah. So you can find me in Instagram at the Catholic life coach. And then my podcast is the Catholic life coach podcast.

[00:42:24] Karla: And yeah, if you’re interested in working with me, my website is just carlafitts. com. And I do work one on one with clients. And yeah, creating that green life and that align life with him. So she’s a magical person. So 

[00:42:37] Jamie: connect with her. 

[00:42:39] Karla: As are you. 

[00:42:41] Jamie: Oh, thank you, Carla. 

[00:42:44] Karla: Thank you, my love.