Live Coaching Replay: Listen to the Biggest Shifts from My Clients

[00:00:00] Jodi: Hello. Okay. Uh, so when you said like, um, like that, you might be afraid of something that you’re trying to manifest. Yeah. I was like, ding, ding, ding. Yes. Because I know that like manifesting my successful coaching business, when I hear the word be of service or be like service, I have a total aversion to that.

[00:00:26] I’m 

[00:00:26] Jodi: like, yeah, I, I don’t have the energy to look after more people. Yes. 

[00:00:34] Lisa: Yeah. Okay. Make a 

[00:00:35] Jamie: list. So good. Okay. Love a new career, a new business. Let me mute this. I don’t know what’s going on today. Okay. Okay. So, So helpful to know. And this is where like the power of words comes in and the power of checking in on how specific words feel for you, because the way one person sees service is probably different from a way [00:01:00] another person sees service.

[00:01:01] Jamie: So, I mean, what I’m getting is probably service to you means like. more work or more to do or more heaviness in some way. So how is it that you’re seeing that word service that makes you feel an aversion to it? Yeah. 

[00:01:18] Jodi: Yeah. For me, service is like, um, I don’t know, just giving, like giving more and being responsible for more.

[00:01:27] Jodi: And yeah, feels like it’s like heavy lifting. Like, and I feel like that’s just, Too much, you know, with, you know, I’m a, I’m a, my children’s only parent and I’m a single woman and I run my own business and I’m like, okay, I, I feel like I can’t take on anymore, but it’s so counter intuitive because I want to help the women I work with, but the word service triggers me.

[00:01:57] Jamie: Okay, so I would say, [00:02:00] okay, well, we could stop using the word service and use a different word. That’s one route. Or we could shift the way you see that word service in a way that serves you. Right. I’m wondering if that might be more useful only because I feel like that word is used a lot in um, You know, marketing and different containers and in manifestation.

[00:02:26] Jamie: And I think if you see it in this way of heaviness, it’s always going to probably make you feel a certain way, right? It’s going to make you have an aversion to it. Yes. So my instinct is it’s probably going to be better to reprogram or change the way that you see what service is. Does that resonate for you?

[00:02:44] Jamie: Yes. Okay. Because right now, if you think about the word service as like your circumstance, right? It’s just a word. Your thought about it, like your interpretation of what that means is I have to give more and be responsible for more people. And [00:03:00] that feels heavy. Yes. And then what do you do from there? If you feel like it means giving more and being responsible for more people and it feels, 

[00:03:08] Jodi: um, well, I think I, I sabotage myself because I, I don’t stay consistent with social media.

[00:03:17] Jodi: I don’t, you know, I create lots of things, but then I hardly tell anyone about it. Okay. Yeah. 

[00:03:24] Jamie: Okay. And then. The result of that is you don’t share more of you of your life. You don’t serve, right? Yes. Yes. Okay. Okay. So it doesn’t then, you know, uh, create anything for you to receive back, right? The law of giving and receiving isn’t, it’s not right.

[00:03:47] Jamie: Yeah. Yes. So what I would consider is that service. Service doesn’t have anything to do with the amount. It doesn’t have to do with [00:04:00] an amount. It doesn’t have to do with more.

[00:04:09] Jodi: Right. So, so it doesn’t, service doesn’t have to do with more clients. No, 

[00:04:19] Jamie: not necessarily, unless you want more. And even if you have more, that doesn’t have to feel heavy.

[00:04:29] Jamie: Service just meant shining your light. Mm hmm. 

[00:04:34] Mm hmm. Okay. 

[00:04:38] Jamie: Yes. Like what’s already there. Yes. Right. Letting that shine. Not hiding yourself. Not stopping yourself. 

[00:04:49] Lisa (2): Mm hmm. 

[00:04:52] Jamie: Okay. What if it’s helping the person that’s right in front of you? 

[00:04:59] Lisa (2): It’s 

[00:04:59] Jamie: just being [00:05:00] intentional with the people that you already serve that are already in front of you.

[00:05:05] Jodi: Right. 

[00:05:07] Jamie: Yes. Loving them. It’s believing in them.

[00:05:12] Right. I 

[00:05:13] Jamie: think what you have it associated with more, like you have to give more time, you have to give more of your energy. The way that I see it as I just have to be my energy. Yeah. Not give more of it out. It’s like, no, I just need to let that. Emanate more. It’s already what I have. I just need to share it.

[00:05:38] Lisa (2): Mm-Hmm. . 

[00:05:39] Jamie: Yeah. Yeah, totally. Which only feels good. It only feels alive, right? Like right. You were talking about Yeah. Like it, it actually to serve more, feels more alive. It’s not doing more, it’s not adding more to my plate. It’s being more loving. Right. It’s who am I being? 

[00:05:59] Jodi: Mm-Hmm. . [00:06:00] Yes. Yeah. That, that’s very different from how I’ve been doing it.

[00:06:06] Jodi: Okay, 

[00:06:07] Jamie: so if you viewed it in that way. 

[00:06:11] Jodi: How 

[00:06:12] Jamie: would you see things differently and how would you like feel about serving? 

[00:06:20] Jodi: Um, if I viewed it in that way, I think I would feel a better about doing social media because I would feel like it’s not just another thing I have to do. Another thing I have to put on my plate.

[00:06:32] Jodi: Yes. Um, it’s, it, it would be about just being me. And that serving people by doing that rather than feeling like I have to do more. 

[00:06:47] Jamie: Totally. Yeah, totally. And what I think is the most, the quickest way to grow a business is to ask yourself if it’s really just about me being me and me shining [00:07:00] my light and being a light in the world and helping the people that I’m here to help and living out this karma, this desire that I came in here with, then What feels most natural?

[00:07:13] Jamie: What is the most mean way to market my business or to shine my light for you? It might be social media or it might feel a lot lighter doing social media, but it also doesn’t have to be that. 

[00:07:25] Jodi: Yes. And I would love it if it doesn’t have to be that. Cause I don’t actually really enjoy social media. I mean, I know Lisa was talking about how she hasn’t been on in weeks except for to talk about shows.

[00:07:38] Jodi: I don’t even do that. Yeah. I just drop it. And I’m like, oh yeah, it’s, it’s been a month and a half and I’ve been on Instagram. 

[00:07:47] Jamie: So what feels like the most fun way and the most you way to shine your light? Um, 

[00:07:54] Jodi: well, I like teaching and yeah, so I’ve been recently toying with the [00:08:00] idea. Well, how could I like just do little snippets of teaching on social media?

[00:08:05] Jodi: Because then that feels more natural rather than 

[00:08:08] Jamie: totally 

[00:08:09] Jodi: creating this whole, you know, 

[00:08:11] Jamie: Yes, thing. Yeah. Like, what if that could work? 

[00:08:19] Jodi: Yeah, that would be more fun to me. Yeah. Yeah. To do that. Yeah. And more natural. Yeah. 

[00:08:26] Jamie: Yeah. So I would consider that maybe that’s also the most efficient way to grow your business because people can feel that energy.

[00:08:36] Jamie: They feel what you’re naturally good at. They feel whenever it’s real. Yes. And when it’s natural to you, and when you’re, they also feel it when it’s just something you’re checking off of the to do list because you think you need to do it for the algorithm. Exactly, which is 

[00:08:51] Jodi: what I was doing and it’s so exhausting, and I don’t enjoy it and it doesn’t, you know, doesn’t really get the results either.

[00:08:57] Jamie: Yes. [00:09:00] Yeah. So that’s what I would consider is what if service is just you being the most you. And you doing what feels most natural, what you’re most gifted at, what you like to do. And that can work. Yes. Yeah. Yeah. What if you can grow your business in that way? 

[00:09:22] Jodi: Yeah, that would take a lot of weight off for sure.

[00:09:27] Jamie: Yeah. 

[00:09:28] Jodi: Mm hmm. 

[00:09:30] Jamie: Totally. Yeah. Yeah, I like that. So how does it feel whenever you think of the word service or sir? 

[00:09:40] Jodi: Um, yes. Now, now I see it differently. I do see it as just, yeah, being me and just like sharing and, you know, teaching and not necessarily like something that I have to do. It’s, you know, for other people, it’s more just like sharing and [00:10:00] yeah.

[00:10:00] Jamie: Yeah. 

[00:10:01] Jodi: Yeah. 

[00:10:02] Jamie: Mm hmm. Yep. 100 percent because just adding to dues is not of surface usually that’s doing a to do list, right? Yes. Yes. That’s not usually the highest level of service unless it’s something we actually are like enjoying and feeling called to do. Yes. Right. Yeah. Yeah. Service gets to be fun.

[00:10:21] Jamie: That’s some of the thoughts that I might practice are like, service gets to be fun. It gets to be me. Um, it gets to feel light and it gets to energize me. I think your brain had it associated with draining you, but if you’re truly in service, it’s going to energize you. Right. Okay. 

[00:10:42] Jodi: Yeah. I 

[00:10:42] Jamie: like that. 

[00:10:43] Jodi: Yeah, that’s really good.

[00:10:44] Jodi: Yes. So 

[00:10:45] Jamie: good. So good. I love it. I’m so glad you brought that forward. Thank you so much. Yeah. Natalie.

[00:10:57] Natalie: Yeah. Okay. I was not going [00:11:00] to get, I did not plan on getting coaching today, but it’s meant to be, I will be vulnerable. 

[00:11:05] Jamie: I love it. 

[00:11:08] Natalie: I’m in a really weird space and I don’t know. I don’t know what’s happening because like I’m even going through like the 21 days of manifesting and I’m just I’m not even mentally in like I was before it’s going through the motions, but I’m not like internalizing it.

[00:11:26] Natalie: So, like, I don’t know what happened, like, around, like, the 1st of May. Like I was not making enough money to, cause I’m the bread winner. I was not making enough money. Cause you know, I took like a break from my business last year, certain amount of time, and I’ve had to rebuild it back up. So I wasn’t making the money that I needed monthly, but I had savings.

[00:11:49] Natalie: And then all of a sudden, the 1st of May. I met my energetic match. I was starting to make 8, 000, which I [00:12:00] don’t even need that much to live off of. And so I hired, I had this flood of clients come in and then I had this career coach reach out to me on LinkedIn where he was like, I see your previous recruiter, could I give you five clients a week?

[00:12:17] Natalie: Oh, wow. Yeah. 100 an hour. Okay. Each of them. So then that upped. Yeah. It was 

[00:12:25] Jamie: like such 

[00:12:25] Natalie: a huge blessing, but now I kind of feel frozen because now my schedule is more full and I have, but like, I’m such a better coach from experiencing this. Like these, these men that I’m coaching and they work in like Silicon Valley, it’s like totally up leveling, like my coaching skills.

[00:12:45] Natalie: And I’m basically kind of. I’m basically being paid to kind of be trained in a sense. Right. Isn’t that the best? Yes. I have all these ideas that I could share with my ideal client, but I just, I don’t know if it’s just [00:13:00] exhaustion or if it’s just like, I met it and, and it’s kind of like a slow burn of like, be patient.

[00:13:09] Natalie: You’ll get back to marketing. You’ll be get back to doing all the things. I don’t, I don’t know what, there’s just something that’s blocking me. And I, what is the 

[00:13:22] Jamie: thing you said? It’s blocking me. What is it blocking you from? Or it feel like it’s blocking you from? 

[00:13:29] Natalie: So just like, Doing the consistent things that I was doing before that helped to create the clients to begin with.

[00:13:37] Natalie: So like weekly emails, I’m not as consistent about that. I’m still putting some offers out there and I haven’t posted on social media for two months, but really that’s not necessarily where my clients were coming from. Anyway, I’m not nurturing a big portion of the clients that I get is from referrals.

[00:13:59] Natalie: So I’m [00:14:00] not nurturing the relationships like I normally That was producing the referrals, so it’s just, yeah, I’m not, I’m not really doing any marketing right now. I’m just coaching clients. I’m just being above water and they are resigning. So, like, I’m still having money come in, but I’m not really marketing.

[00:14:24] Jamie: Okay, and. What I’m curious 

[00:14:27] Natalie: about, 

[00:14:28] Jamie: you know, yeah. Is that a problem? I don’t know. 

[00:14:34] Natalie: That’s probably what I’m overthinking. Like, I don’t even know. Like, I know it’s summer. My bank account is fine. I’m safe. Like, I, 

[00:14:43] Jamie: yeah, I think these are things to remember, right? Like, and this is, this is, this is, So common, it’s like you get the thing and then it’s almost like an upper limit of like, ah, we got the thing, right?

[00:14:56] Jamie: And then it’s like, now what? [00:15:00] And maybe it’s also just around building the safety and the capacity for what you have created. Like maybe that’s the phase you’re in. I always like to think of business as like, what is the season right now that you’re in and that what is it that you most need? And that’s what I would ask yourself.

[00:15:20] Natalie: Yeah, and that’s what I’ve kind of thought about lately is it’s just like When is the last time I had a summer where, cause like two years ago, my house was up for sale, all the showings coming through, like when is the last time I actually had a summer of just like enjoying clients and just enjoying a lot of life too, and just like, I don’t know, resting a little more.

[00:15:50] Jamie: Totally. 

[00:15:50] Natalie: Cause I’m not resting. I have a busier schedule, but it’s just, I’m not having to market as much right now. 

[00:15:56] Jamie: Yeah. But 

[00:15:57] Natalie: I also don’t feel pressure to make more money. [00:16:00] That’s the thing, right? That’s what I’m happy about is it’s like, I’m actually, okay, this is just sustainable right now. And it, it really is.

[00:16:08] Natalie: Totally. Totally. And that is just the guilt of like, it’s like the, Yeah, but you have this great idea for this freebie and you want to refresh your, you have all these ideas for your website now and you have all these content ideas, like there’s that underlining, I’ve almost thought lately of like, Voice memo record all of the ideas.

[00:16:32] Natalie: Yes. And then the sentence shall some. And then, it’s like, because the intuition is definitely working, but not the desire 

[00:16:42] Jamie: to take action. So, I mean, why not do that, right? I also think we underestimate the power of, and what, like, right, whenever we say value creates, money and think of how much value you are [00:17:00] putting out into the world just through your clients.

[00:17:03] Jamie: That in and of itself is marketing right there. Why is that marketing? Because you’re over delivering to the clients that you have. There’s a chance they could rehire you. There’s a chance that they could refer you. There’s so much expansion that happens from just that alone that you could totally take a break from marketing and be completely fine.

[00:17:27] Natalie: Yeah. Yeah. I mean, it’s true. Even some of these men that I’m, I’m coaching for this other coach, one of them reached out, was like, can my wife hire you? Yeah. And so it’s true. It’s a hundred percent. Yeah. It’s just doing a different type of, 

[00:17:47] Jamie: and I think what you want to identify is what’s the story that makes you feel uneasy, whether that’s guilty or uneasy or whatever it is about.

[00:17:57] Jamie: Taking a little pause on [00:18:00] marketing and really just focusing right now on client delivery and yourself. Yeah. 

[00:18:09] Natalie: Yeah. That, that would be amazing. Cause it’s 

[00:18:12] Jamie: the story that gets in the way 

[00:18:14] Natalie: It gets in the way of that.

[00:18:20] Natalie: It, well, it’s like, like I have this vision board right in front of me and like, I started to create it like at that retreat that I went to and I love it, but it, it is like pressure to, to want to create more of that, right. Which will take more money, but yet pressure is never what makes me money more money.

[00:18:38] Natalie: And it doesn’t, it just drains me. 

[00:18:42] Jamie: And what’s the story that creates pressure is that that’s the only way to make more money.

[00:18:49] Natalie: Yeah. So to do more is to create more money. Like how you create more money is by, I need to reach more people. 

[00:18:59] Jamie: [00:19:00] So could you potentially challenge that? Like what’s another way that maybe you’d want to look at it from your highest self, from the you, who’s fully in alignment in your business and enjoys your business?

[00:19:18] Natalie: Yeah. I don’t think it’s more. Cause I even look at how many clients I’m coaching right now. And then like, I look at the emails I am sitting, sending out and the number of. People on my email list and it’s like, they’re all right there. Totally. Just give them value because it’s value that creates money. I logically know 

[00:19:38] Jamie: that.

[00:19:38] Jamie: Yeah, yeah, yeah. Totally. And you’re just undoing some of the programming that says that you have to do more to make more. You have to do more marketing to make more. And then your brain is trying to put pressure on you to do that. But that’s actually not even true because like you said, you stopped marketing a while ago and you’ve continued making money.[00:20:00] 

[00:20:00] Natalie: Yeah, it’s never been my secret sauce. It’s always been like the in person events. It’s, it’s people getting to know me on a very, you know, they just get to know who I am. And it’s just like a natural energetic, you know, Writing, marketing, I don’t know. It’s never been like equal to clients necessarily. 

[00:20:22] Jamie: So what if you could trust in your way and that you can be fully abundant and your business can continue growing at the capacity that you want, in the timing that you want, doing it in that way?

[00:20:35] Natalie: Yeah, yeah, it is. It’s a trip to, I don’t know, I like, I get emotional where it’s just like,

[00:20:47] Natalie: Like, I don’t like letting that go though, like letting that sink in, I guess it’s like shifting to that new identity because it’s just like, that is how I want to see it. [00:21:00] It is like, I know that that’s the block that it’s do more to create more, but I didn’t work super long hours to create what I did. So why would I need to now?

[00:21:15] Natalie: And I am, I’m just tired. I’m 

[00:21:19] Jamie: just tired. Yeah, totally. I don’t want to do more right now. No, and you don’t have to. Yeah, you don’t have to. It’s not going to lead. I think it’s like permission to do that. I need someone to give me permission. Right. You just need to give yourself permission and to create the safety around it.

[00:21:40] Jamie: In what ways are you going to be totally safe to do that?

[00:21:48] Natalie: I have clients, I have savings. I have a roof over my head. That ideas keep coming. I have days where I have more [00:22:00] energy or sometimes I do create things like it. All is good in the world for like I’m safe. Yes. 

[00:22:08] Jamie: And it really might also I have no idea if this is true, but I’ll just have you check in because sometimes this happens where it’s like we get what we want and it’s good and our default emotion that we’re used to is like, you know, Feeling like we’re always having to like, try to get things or do more or do more.

[00:22:30] Jamie: And then when we have it, it’s like, wait, what do I actually do? Then we create like a problem. 

[00:22:35] Natalie: Oh, totally. Yeah. Like there’s no worthiness. Like, why did this guy hire me like 200 for five clients? Yeah. And it’s like, what you want me like this much money? Like I’ve never made this much money consistently month after month.

[00:22:53] Natalie: Like what? I know it’s like, we want to push away the good things. Once it starts happening, I am totally that way. [00:23:00] Right. So I think I’m uncomfortable with receiving right. It’s comfortable with that. 

[00:23:06] Jamie: So if you were thinking about it in terms of it, you don’t have to overnight get better at receiving, but what would it look like if you decided to just build the muscle of receiving and getting more comfortable?

[00:23:21] Jamie: Like, you know, just 1 percent a day, 1 percent more taking it in 1 percent more a day. What might that look like for you?

[00:23:36] Natalie: Um,

[00:23:40] Natalie: I think it would just be giving to myself What this money gives me, which is rest, which is, you know, enjoying the off hours of summer and enjoying that, [00:24:00] you know, the clients keep coming right now. Like everything’s working, like Ashley, just enjoying, like just, well, it’s rest it’s receiving Ashley, the best I give myself.

[00:24:09] Natalie: I think that’s the biggest thing I need to give myself right now. 

[00:24:12] Jamie: Totally, 

[00:24:13] Natalie: totally upping my gratitude. journaling that I do every night of what I’ve already received. 

[00:24:24] Jamie: Yeah. 

[00:24:26] Natalie: Yeah. What I believe is coming that there’s no rush for that, but like, but probably more of like what I’ve received and that, that I created that.

[00:24:35] Natalie: Totally. 

[00:24:38] Jamie: So I think that’s, that’s just the next layer for you. Working more. You know how to work more. The growth edge for you is receiving it more. 

[00:24:50] Natalie: Yeah. Yeah. It’s, I’ve never thought about it in this way. Like I created this rest for myself. Like I, I created this. Totally. [00:25:00] 

[00:25:00] Jamie: A hundred percent. Totally. Okay.

[00:25:06] Jamie: You absolutely did. And you can keep creating it at the capacity that you want. Yeah. You got it. So good. Hey Jamie. Hello, good to see you. 

[00:25:20] Lisa: So good to see you. Um, okay, so I can kind of piggyback off what Jodi was just talking about. The thing that I was feeling like I could use coaching with is feeling abundance, like going into the holidays.

[00:25:40] Jamie: Okay. 

[00:25:42] Lisa: And I feel like there’s a couple of different directions we could go here, but yeah, because one of the ways I feel like it’s kind of popping up for me is just feeling abundant just generally like as me and given my currency and where I’m at, [00:26:00] um, even though it feels a little bit different than maybe like what it’s been like in the past.

[00:26:05] Lisa: Yep. And then I also feel like there’s like actual things or like plans that I’m like considering making but maybe not feeling like I have what I need to make those plans. 

[00:26:22] Jamie: Okay. 

[00:26:24] Lisa: Um, so One example can be, like, for Christmas, um, we have some friends who live in Italy right now, and they invited us to come, my son and I, to go out there and stay with them.

[00:26:42] Lisa (2): Yeah. 

[00:26:42] Lisa: Which, to my insides, is just like a hell yes. Yeah! And do that, and go to Italy, and like Sounds 

[00:26:49] Jamie: super fun! 

[00:26:51] Lisa: Spend Christmas with you guys, like, let’s do this! And then I found myself, like, checking ticket prices yesterday [00:27:00] and, like, noticing the amount and feeling like, whoa, okay, like, I had to, like, stop myself, or I just chose to stop myself for a moment because they were just more than what, like, my eyes were expecting to see.

[00:27:14] Lisa: Um, and so this morning I, like, found myself, like, I had taken Ben to school and I was in my car and I was just, like, Letting my mind, like, go to the land of, like, what would, like, the ideal scenario be and just let myself go there. 

[00:27:29] Jamie: Beautiful. 

[00:27:30] Lisa: And just imagining, like, what is the exact plane route I would take and, like, Ooh, maybe we’ll, like, stop in New York on the way there or, like, just going to all these, like, amazing places.

[00:27:42] Jamie: Yeah. 

[00:27:44] Lisa: And then, like, then I feel the There was like a disappointment that came up because I feel like, okay, like I have a vision over here, but then I feel like the money in my bank account doesn’t [00:28:00] reflect like where my imagination is going. 

[00:28:03] Jamie: Okay. 

[00:28:04] Lisa: So 

[00:28:05] Jamie: what, yeah, let’s look at like between that space of imagining and feeling lit up and then all of a sudden it’s like, ah, but disappointment, what happens in your brain?

[00:28:14] Jamie: What is the thought that drops in that makes you feel suddenly disappointed after having that vision? 

[00:28:22] Lisa: I don’t have enough for that. 

[00:28:25] Jamie: Okay, okay. So here is what’s helpful to recognize. This thought, I don’t have enough for this, is not a circumstance.

[00:28:42] Jamie: I 

[00:28:42] Lisa: can see 

[00:28:42] Jamie: that. Yeah. It’s a thought you’re thinking that instantly makes you feel disappointed. And this is why a lot of people don’t go after the things that they dream of or these things. And I’m not, whether you do it or not, I’m, you know, there’s no attachment to that, but there is an opportunity to change the way that [00:29:00] your brain views things like this.

[00:29:03] Jamie: So many people have a dream and then they think, but I can’t. And it’s really usually an automatic, like, habitual thought because maybe this is like a bit above what you’re used to imagining or dreaming, right? Like, it may be a little bit of upper limiting of like, but I can’t have something like that. I can’t afford something like that.

[00:29:24] Jamie: And in reality, we don’t even know. Like, there’s a lot of time between now and Christmas that you could be investigating, dreaming, coming up with ideas, looking at different options for getting there. Yeah. Right, if you tap into resourcefulness, but I think the thing that’s shut you down instantly is I can’t afford it or I don’t have the money for that right now when we don’t even know you looked at, like, for a second, you looked at some options.

[00:29:56] Lisa: Yeah, I can see how. [00:30:00] I might have a bit of a narrow. Focus as far as, like, ooh, like, how could that how could that occur? Because, like, the way that my brain would love to be able to go about it, like, oh, the money’s already there. It’s there’s plenty. And then we just buy the ticket, like, 

[00:30:16] Jamie: maybe that’s not the path either.

[00:30:18] Jamie: Right? Maybe that’s ultimately where you want to go. But there’s something in between. Right? I always like to think about, like, Stepping stone thoughts. It’s like we don’t have to go from I can’t afford it. I can’t do it. I don’t have the money to like, I have overflow and there’s tons and let me just buy the first ticket that I see, right?

[00:30:36] Jamie: There’s like a million thoughts between that that you could think that are going to feel more empowering and drive you to create this if you want it. 

[00:30:44] Lisa: So, let me ask you this, because it’s like, I love envisioning and pretending that I am her, that like, can buy literally any ticket, no big deal. Right. [00:31:00] And so, I don’t know, I guess there’s part of me that, like, wants to be able to, like, stay there, but also, yeah, like, 

[00:31:12] Jamie: take the steps that make sense or whatever, you know, do you know I totally get what you’re saying.

[00:31:16] Jamie: You’re like, I want to stay in my future self, but I don’t have the circumstances of my future self, which I understand. And I think the reason to go to your future self is just to imprint that feeling and practice that feeling. But I don’t think It’s always helpful to stay in that 100 percent of the time.

[00:31:33] Jamie: Like, I think there’s a between where we are now and then our future selves. And it’s like, Oh, what’s the bridge there? What’s the way there? Cause I think some people get into trouble if they start acting as their future self before they have, you know, that’s like they can get into debt and all kinds of things.

[00:31:50] Jamie: Cause they’re like, I’ll just spend it from my future self. And it’s like, yeah, but the circumstances aren’t there. So we’re just getting into the future self to start imprinting that feeling, knowing where we’re going. [00:32:00] Right. When we do that, it’s like you give the universe or like whatever, a blueprint of where you’re going and it will start guiding you there.

[00:32:09] Jamie: But what you want to ask is like, what is one inch towards her

[00:32:17] Jamie: between the version of me that says I can’t afford it instantly. And then the version that, you know, just drops the money. Yeah. How can you inch your way towards that?

[00:32:31] Lisa: Yeah. That’s interesting. Cause like while you were talking, it’s like, Ooh, how can I play with like being her and letting it be fun and playful and feel really good. And also like be okay with what is. 

[00:32:49] Jamie: Yeah. 

[00:32:50] Lisa: I think that’s where I get a little tripped up sometimes, like, it’s like, Oh, I opened my eyes and then I’m like, bombed when I see you, even though there’s [00:33:00] nothing.

[00:33:00] Lisa: I mean, I get it. It’s like all what I’m just making it mean and all that. So, 

[00:33:05] Jamie: yeah. And I can give you some ideas to like get started here in case your brain’s like, wait, what’s between the two. So some of the ideas are to have the vision of what you want and the flights that you want. And instead of thinking.

[00:33:20] Jamie: That’s out of budget to say, maybe there’s a way I could do this. Like maybe this is figureoutable

[00:33:31] Jamie: and to believe in manifestation. Like if this feels real and you see it done and you see yourself in Italy, know that like, there is a way that this can happen.

[00:33:48] Jamie: And another thought that I think might be helpful is like, Oh, wouldn’t it be fun if there was a flight to New York and then we got there. And what if I’m like worthy and deserving of this? [00:34:00] What if this is available? What if? Like, we could play in curiosity. 

[00:34:05] Lisa: Yeah, that feels really good. 

[00:34:07] Jamie: Like, miracles happen every day.

[00:34:09] Jamie: That’s another thought that I love to practice. Like, miracles happen every day, and I don’t have to know how. I couldn’t know how, because it’s a miracle. 

[00:34:19] Lisa: Yeah, yeah. I feel like life would want me to go. 

[00:34:26] Jamie: Yeah! 

[00:34:28] Lisa: I feel like life would want that. 

[00:34:33] Jamie: Um, okay. So what I would practice is something around this, you know, this is totally figureoutable.

[00:34:42] Jamie: Like I’m resourceful and tap into your resourcefulness. 

[00:34:46] Lisa: Yeah. Yeah. I like that. Cause I can already feel like, you know, it like opens up my mind to just, yeah. Being a little bit more open to like creative [00:35:00] ways that it could come about. Totally. 

[00:35:03] Jamie: Totally. And you could think about from your present self, what makes sense financially to do this.

[00:35:09] Jamie: And then like get resourceful. How can I figure out how to do it within that budget? 

[00:35:13] Lisa: Um, okay. So like, back to what you were saying really quick about like, you know, getting yourself into trouble with like being too far into the future, me getting into debt. Like, I do think that that was something that like, you know, I mean, I guess I can already feel like the answer coming to me.

[00:35:34] Lisa: It’s just like checking in with myself, maybe to make sure that I feel okay with like 

[00:35:40] Jamie: the next step or the amount of 100 percent totally. And one courageous move also isn’t what’s going to put you into a ton of debt. So there are times where I do stretch myself and act as my future self and I feel, Oh my God, but I’m like, no, but life wants me to do this and I can feel it and I’m going to go for it.

[00:35:59] Jamie: And it’s [00:36:00] scary. And I usually see that it’s safe and totally fine and amazing. And I’m so glad that I did it. 

[00:36:05] Lisa: Yeah, 

[00:36:05] Jamie: so I think there’s a balance between like there are times where I act from my future self, but it’s not something where I go to, oh my god, I’m in overflow all the time, let me spend from that place because that’s just kind of avoidant.

[00:36:19] Jamie: That’s not really checking in with myself. 

[00:36:22] Lisa: Yeah, so I can just like stay in trust and playfulness like at the same time. Okay. I 

[00:36:31] Jamie: love it. And we’ll, I’ll send you good vibes for This beautiful manifestation. I’m sending it to all of you for what you are creating. Totally miracles happen every day.