Manifesting a $100k+ Business by Focusing on Service with Jolene Winn

[00:00:00] Jamie Berman: We have the amazing Jolene Nguyen with us today. And I am so excited for this interview. Jolene is an amazing client who has been with me since what feels like almost the start of her business. So yeah, right. Like, yeah, pretty much the start. So I just feel so honored to have been her coach and be able to witness the incredible growth that has happened personally for her within her business and just seeing what she has created and manifested over the past couple of years.

It is absolutely amazing. So I definitely want to dive in and Here are all of the things here about your journey. What’s shifted? What’s helped? What’s allowed you to become a Amazing six figure coach you are the life coach for the port the [00:01:00] light sorry, let me say this one more time the life coach for the porn addicts wife a podcaster an author Right.

And so tell me a little bit more about yourself and then I want to dive into how you’ve grown this amazing business in such a short amount of time. Okay. 

[00:01:18] Jolene Winn: First of all, thank you for having me on here. I love you and I love working with you and I have, I feel like I’ve been working with you pretty much since the start of my business.

I started coaching 2020 and.

Then I hired you in like December or January of 2021. So it was six months later, like in pretty much immediately. I knew I was going to need some help that I couldn’t, my brain was not going to be able to handle life on its own. And so we have been together for a very long time. It’s been amazing. And I, what do you want to know?

It’s like, where should I start? [00:02:00] 

[00:02:00] Jamie Berman: Yeah. Just tell me a little bit about your business. 

[00:02:02] Jolene Winn: Okay. So I work with women, typically Christian women who have a spouse struggling with a pornography problem. And I started off coaching one on one and now I, I’ve moved into group coaching and I have a program all set up.

And the reason that I do that is my husband struggled with a pornography addiction. And when I found life coaching and, you know, mindset and, you know, emotional processing, Once I learned all of that and I certified through the life coach school, I realized that there were people that didn’t know these tools and I just felt called to go find them.

And that’s really how I started my business. But what I learned very quickly was that. You can be a really good coach, which I feel like I always have been. And you can have this passion and this drive, but the years, a lot of things that go into running a business that I had no idea, and there’s a lot of little details and decisions that you make along the way that [00:03:00] I felt I was getting in the way of.

growing, right? I felt like I was trying to do all the right things and it was very hustly and it just was not working. And that’s when I found you. I was like, someone has got to have an answer that’s different than just like grind and, you know, instant message. A million people a day on instagram and cold message people on facebook I just was not into that and I was like someone else has got to have an answer There must be a solution and that’s when I found you.

I was like very attracted to your energy and it has been night and day difference since then. 

[00:03:38] Jamie Berman: Oh my goodness. So I want to hear a little bit about that before and what you were trying and why it wasn’t working. Totally. 

[00:03:48] Jolene Winn: So the first thing I tried to do was just do it all by myself. The first thing I tried was I was like, okay, great.

I’m certified as a life coach. I should just be able to start a business. And I very quickly [00:04:00] realized I didn’t know what a consultation was. I didn’t know how much I should charge. I Was just trying to find all the right answers from other programs So I joined one program and then I joined another one and I was like, okay Maybe if someone just lays out exactly how it’s supposed to happen then I can just follow it and maybe that’ll be the thing that I felt like there must be some kind of secret that somebody had of how to do it that was going to be the answer.

So I kept joining all these programs thinking, okay, this one didn’t have the answer. Maybe I’ll join this one and that one will have the answer. And again, it was just very. Hustling. It felt very hustling to me. I just kept trying to shift what I was doing in order to change what was being created and in my brain, logically, that made sense logically, it made sense that.

Okay. If I’m not getting the result that it must be because I’m doing something wrong. And, but that I just, I did not have the emotional capacity to that for very long. And very quickly I was like, this isn’t working. [00:05:00] And I was like, I need to find a coach because. I, my head is just not in the right space and that’s when I found you and I was very just immediately attracted to your energy.

It was all from a photo. I was like, I love this girl. I don’t know what she does. I think at that time you still even your website hadn’t been updated and you were, cause you used to coach on PCOS and like weight loss. And I think your website was still that. And I went, I was like, I don’t care what this girl coaches on.

Like, I’m pretty sure it’s business because that’s how I found her. And I was like emailing you and I was like, can I buy you yesterday? Like I need to spend money and I need you in my life. And that, and when I started working with you, which you were obviously a business coach and you were, you showed me even just in the consultation was so powerful because you, you showed me where I was now and you were like, okay, where do you want to go?

And it. Became so clear. And you were like, look, here’s the only things in the way. And it was all my thoughts and feelings. And I was like, that was [00:06:00] such a powerful shift for me. And ever since then, that has, you know, working with you has been. The thing that keeps bringing me back to every result that you create is entirely From you from your energy your thoughts your feelings and my brain very much wants to go back to the how and do all the things still to this day and Every time i’m with you and I coach with you every coaching call.

I have you’re always bringing me back to thoughts, feelings, energy, and that’s what shifts. And once I have, like, when I come back to that, that’s when I start seeing a shift in my business and the results that I create. 

[00:06:40] Jamie Berman: Yes, a hundred percent. And this is totally why two people can be doing the exact same things in terms of action, right?

Like you said, you were DMing all the people, you were following what they told you to do. And they’re like, if you do this, your business will grow. But the reason there’s no [00:07:00] Results is because of the thoughts and the energy that’s behind it. So what do you think that energy was before that was behind the actions that you were taking before we started working together?

That allowed, right? Cause if you could potentially do those actions with a different energy and get results. So what do you think the energy is that doesn’t work? For sure. So 

[00:07:22] Jolene Winn: for me, one of them was like desperation. Like I was like, there’s gotta be, I was very desperate to find a solution again. I also thought it was a problem.

I thought that my business should be different than it was, that I should be making more than I was. And that was like an issue. And because it was a problem that I like wanted an immediate solution. So it was very desperate and that doesn’t come off well to other people. And the other thing was. When this is what we spent like the whole first year Doing working on which was such a powerful shift for me was learning how to unattach learning how to detach from [00:08:00] the goal right learning how to detach from Trying to from the result that I wanted to create right like learning how to hold A goal of, you know, having 100, 000 business, making 100, 000, but not needing to have it.

And that was not an energy that I was in. I was in very much a graspy, needy, I want these people to buy from me. I need to get clients in order to feel, you know, like a successful business person and like I can coach and all of these things. And when I was in that energy, that is when it, none of the things that I was doing were working.

[00:08:38] Jamie Berman: Yes, I remember that. Right. Your relationship with your goal was like the biggest, probably the biggest thing we worked on. And once that shifted, like whoosh, things started. I mean, you were getting results right when we started. I feel like you started signing clients right away, but it’s like things really opened up for you.

I also think just energetically, it opened up where [00:09:00] you felt more, Free and yourself whenever you stopped being so attached to the goal So what do you think changed there? Like how did you start seeing the goal differently that started to serve you? Versus before like you said you were attached to it.

You made it mean something about you. I remember you used To say like, well, what’s the point of the goal for not striving for it? If it’s not hard, right? Like you’re like so confused. 

[00:09:25] Jolene Winn: I know I couldn’t, I couldn’t understand it. My brain just like, was like, well, then why even have goals? I think the biggest thing that helped me was learning how this was a concept that you taught me was really learning how to step into my future self.

And this was such a powerful shift for me. And it, what it, what it looked like for me was, I mean, the first six months of my months of my business. So the first year, right. I started in July of 2020 from July to December, I made 12, 000. Yeah. The next year I made 65, 000 and I switched from one on one coaching to group [00:10:00] coaching.

So I started working way less and the shift that happened for me that made that possible was Rather than seeing myself as a coach who made 12, 000 is I started to see myself and believe that I was a hundred K coach and making decisions from that energy right from the energy of like this is inevitable.

It’s happening already. I don’t know when, I don’t know how I don’t need to know how. That just created a space internally where I could show up and serve and not need the result to happen in order for me to feel a certain way. Does this make sense? 

[00:10:44] Jamie Berman: Yes. A hundred percent. Totally. That’s it. Where we let, it’s like we have to, and this is so hard for the brain to get this, but, and that’s why we’ve, we’ve coached on it and everything, but it.

It like landed for you where [00:11:00] it’s like, you really cannot look at your current reality and your current circumstances to determine who you are or what your identity is because you were already past that. But it’s like the results just have to catch up. If we think of how manifestation works or how the model works, what comes first?

Thoughts? Come first, right? Thoughts come before results. But for some reason, the way that our brain is wired, we just so badly want the results in order to believe something about ourselves. So it makes so much sense at the moment. You were like, you know what? I am a hundred K coach. That’s just who I am.

It doesn’t matter what my circumstances, it doesn’t matter what the account says right now. That’s who I am. And I’m living from that place. And that’s when the results start to follow. 

[00:11:49] Jolene Winn: Okay. And let me just throw out there that like, I’m still learning this. Like we literally, we coached on

this yesterday, right? Yes, ladies. Like everybody [00:12:00] listened to this podcast. Like, this is not something that I haven’t like a skill in now. Like I haven’t just like, Oh, I got it once and now I’m good. I am like constantly needing Jamie in my life to remind me of this and it, and I’m up leveling it now. So last year.

So I made 65, 000 that year and the following year, so last year, 2022, I made 100, 000, which was amazing. But it felt like, oh, of course, because I had already Become the person who could make 100, 000. And so this year I was like, great, I’m going to up level and make 300, 000. And lo and behold, here comes again, my brain just like graspy and needy and wanting the results in my bank account to prove that it’s going to work, to prove that it’s happening.

And again, I’m learning again, how to let that go and how to. step into and practice being that 300 K coach. And when I practice that, when I allow myself to really believe harder, cause that’s what it takes. It takes [00:13:00] believing harder when you don’t have results. It’s easier to believe. This is why our brain wants results first.

It’s easier to believe when we have proof. When we have evidence, it would be easy for me to believe that I could make 300, 000 if I’d already done it. If there were 300, 000 in my bank account, then my brain would say, well, yes, of course you can make it. But until then it’s harder. I just have to believe in myself, in my ability, in the universe, bringing it to me in God, helping me out in all of the pieces working together.

And that’s harder to believe. Like it just takes a little more umph. And my brain doesn’t like that. It takes a little more work and my brain is lazy. And so my brain wants to just wait for the results first and then I’ll believe. And so I’m, again, we coached on this yesterday. It’s just shifting this in my head now to becoming the 300k coach, becoming the woman who brings that in and attracts it versus trying to grasp it in [00:14:00] order to feel like I Like it’s possible.

[00:14:03] Jamie Berman: Yes Yeah, yes gold right there and you’re so right every level we forget we’re like Right. ’cause then it’s like when we achieve the thing, we’re like, Ooh, we’re in that energy of, Ooh, I created the a hundred K, right? I’m a six figure coach. I did it. And then to go to the next level. Sometimes we think the process is different.

Like I know that’s, for me, I’ll be like, oh, well, you know, I hit 500, but 500 K in order to hit a million, I have to change everything. And the process is gonna be so different. And you know, our brain does, it forgets. That’s why we have coaches, right? Because we have to be reminded over and over. And the good news is, like, once you’ve done the process once, not that it’s easy to do it again, necessarily.

It still takes our brain, like, it takes energy for our brain to, to believe in the unseen. But at least when we have done it once, there’s some evidence. Yes. And when we have some evidence, we’re like, okay, I’ve done it once. This is the path. So you keep [00:15:00] reminding yourself and it’s a little easier to trust, right?

Yes. A hundred percent. Yes. Yeah. Exactly. So good. So good. So, um, oh, one of the things that I wanted to touch on, cause I, I just love your passion. And I love what we were talking about yesterday on, so Jolene’s in the Soulful Six Figure Mastermind, and on our call we were talking about, What works like I’m always asking my clients what works because we tend to forget even myself I tend to forget I have to constantly come back and ask myself what works for me.

What is it that lights me up? Why am I doing this? Why am I showing up for this business and creating this? wild thing right like getting back to that and As you shared yesterday, I just had chills because I could feel how like how true it was for you, how passionate you are. So I want to hear a little, just like if you’re willing to share what works, what is it that allows you to [00:16:00] attract clients versus having to go and push and sell and try and hustle?

[00:16:05] Jolene Winn: Yeah, the thing that works for me the most is really, again, just like you were just saying, is remembering why do it in the first place. It’s very easy in business, even if you start with the best of intentions or for the greatest purpose in mind, when you’re running a business day to day, it’s very easy to get wrapped up in the details.

Okay. Emails and marketing and. Launching and programs and pricing and consults and all of those little details and you get, and for me, it’s very easy to get lost in those details. And that turns me inward and that turns my energy inward and my focus inward. And when I’m inwardly focused, it’s then I get very graspy, very needy, very much in, Oh my gosh, here’s what I’m doing and what I need or what I want.

And that’s when I feel like I need other people or circumstances to change. So that I feel better. And the thing that is the biggest shit for me, [00:17:00] like we were talking about yesterday is the thing that really enables me to release all that and then start attracting things and make my business so much easier is when I’m not thinking about myself at all.

Like, yes, the details still need to get figured out, but that’s not my focus. My focus is my clients, my podcast listeners, my followers, the women that are still out there that I haven’t reached yet. It’s like, what do they need? Where are they? What are they struggling with? What can I do to help them and serve them?

And when I’m in that place of service, which you talked about in one of your first podcast episodes, you were talking about like how service is really the, the really one of the keys to having a successful business is that that, because it enables you to look outside of yourself and. That is a very different energy.

It’s an expansive energy in when you’re in service. And when I’m in that energy, it’s way easier for ideals, ideas to flow, and I [00:18:00] get way more creative and I attract way more people. And I just love my business so much more. And when I love my business more, I put more into it naturally, and then I get more results.

So it sounds like you should be focused on yourself and like, okay, be really clear. this goal, because that’s what’s going to drive you to do it. But when I forget myself and I focus on serving, that’s actually when I see the biggest results in my business. 

[00:18:27] Jamie Berman: Totally. It’s huge. It’s huge. 100%. Yeah. And it feels so much better, doesn’t it?

[00:18:34] Jolene Winn: So much better. Oh, it’s so much easier. Yes. Like, and I, I, I can’t figure out why I keep forgetting it. Like my brain literally forgot. My brain is always, always. This is why I need Jamie so much in my life. My brain always goes to like, Okay, but what can we change or do? What kind of action can we take in order to make it work?

And I just, my brain always wants to do that. Always wants to go to like, How? [00:19:00] Do? Change something? And you’re always bringing me back to energy, flow, service. It like naturally will create the results you’re looking 

[00:19:09] Jamie Berman: for. Yes. And you’re not alone, Jolene, as you know, with, you know, our whole group. We’re all right.

Everyone’s in the same boat, which is why it’s so healing. I think being in like an intimate group like that because you can see everyone’s brain is exactly the same. We all do it and we all just need some coaching to come back to it because that’s what egos do. And that’s what it’s like the part of our brain that, um, I always think about this, like that likes logic and wants to understand the how and thinks there’s a right way to do it.

Right. That part of our brain just doesn’t understand energy. It doesn’t understand dropping into our heart to create results. It doesn’t understand dropping into service. So it just easily forgets. And that’s so normal. And that’s why we just keep coming back. We keep bringing it back. It’s totally [00:20:00] fine, right?

And that part of our brain does serve us in a lot of ways because it can execute amazingly, right? When we are in service, we just have to be careful that we’re not letting that run the show all the time. 100%. 

[00:20:14] Jolene Winn: I think that was, again, one of the biggest shifts. For me, you know, the year that I went from 12 K to 65 K, I had so many.

And this was right when I started coaching with you. I was like, okay, you’re like, all right, what do you want to do this year? And I was like, I want to make a hundred thousand dollars. Am I allowed, can I have that goal? Is that a dumb goal? Is that too crazy? And you were like, great. If that’s what you want, let’s figure out why you want it and let’s go after it.

And then you helped me set up my business in a way that felt like me. Because again, one of the things that I kept trying to do was find. The right way to do it. What’s the right way to run your business? And I kept tweeting all these programs that literally would map it out. They were like, send this many emails.

Here’s exactly what to say. Here’s a script. Here’s all the things you need. And I tried it and I was like, [00:21:00] this feels terrible. This does not feel like me. And so again, that was another thing with the energy is when it didn’t feel like me, I felt like it was fake. And then I wouldn’t get the results because it didn’t feel or come from a place that was genuine and people can feel that, right?

So even though my desire or my intention to help was genuine, the way I was going about it didn’t feel like me. And You helped me align it and you like, you’re like, okay, well, how many clients do you want to have? How many hours a week do you want to work rather than, okay, well, let’s figure out, all right, if you want to make a hundred thousand dollars, you have to work so many hours.

You have to coach it this way. And that’s what enabled me to, you know, I have five kids, they homeschool, I’m with them all day and it’ll enable me to set up a business. where I work 10 hours a week and still make 100, 000 and Be there for my kids and enabled me to create a life [00:22:00] that wasn’t what was on the cookie cutter sheet, but feels so much more like me and so much easier.

And that’s what enables me to love it even more and show up for it even more and create even more 

[00:22:13] Jamie Berman: results. Oh yeah. And impact. Like look at the impact you’ve created, which is what is up. It’s just like. It’s amazing that you’re working 10 hours a week, you get to be with your family, and you’re still creating this insane amount of impact.

Yeah, right. And, and I love that you touched on that because it’s so true. It’s not just about us being in service to our people. It’s about us also being in service to ourselves. Yes, right. It’s like, yeah, we have to check. Is this actually an alignment? Is this actually what I want? And I think one of the biggest beliefs that’s probably the most important thing that like entrepreneurs can take on is just there is no one way You can make [00:23:00] any way work.

So if you want to work 10 hours a week and make six figures, you can do it. You just have to believe that it’s possible and then start brainstorming ways that could work. 

[00:23:11] Jolene Winn: Yes. I love that. And I love that it can even shift, right? So when I started working with you, I was coaching one on one and then I shifted into groups and then I shifted into this like lifetime access program.

And all of that felt aligned for. Where I was at the time and so your business can evolve with you and I and again you taught me that like it’s okay Just because you did it this way once doesn’t mean it has to stay like that and part of that is Believing that you are the creator of your results rather than thinking it’s oh, it’s the program.

Oh, it’s the way I have it set up. Oh, it’s the payment plan that I offer, right? When we, we often get stuck in those beliefs, like, well, if I, we get very scared of like, okay, well then if I change something, then it’s not going to work. Or we go to the opposite and we’re like, it’s not [00:24:00] working. I must have to change something in order for me to get results again.

But when you come back to your energy and take. Um, responsibility for your results, which is something I’m still working on, but taking responsibility for your results, that’s what enables you to, your business to grow with you and shift as needed. 

[00:24:20] Jamie Berman: Yes. Yes. So good. So let’s talk about some of the things that you have created.

Yeah. What do you 

[00:24:28] Jolene Winn: want to talk about? 

[00:24:29] Jamie Berman: All of the things, what have you, what results have you created that you’re going to own 

[00:24:34] Jolene Winn: Jolene? I know. Again, I’m still working on this. I have created a phenomenal program. I have an incredible program that I’m so proud of that really attracts exactly who I’m looking for.

And I think that’s the thing I’m most proud of the women that I find or that find me are so. Invested in their own progression and that’s probably the thing that [00:25:00] I’m most proud of in my program I have designed it in a way that feels aligned for me that helps them and Is continuously open which was something that I always wanted to have Because, you know, as the wife of a porn addict, when you’re struggling with that, you know, you can decide at any point, like, okay, now is the day that I’m ready to go forward.

And I wanted to be available for them when that happened. So I love the program that I’ve created. I’ve also written a book. Which was a dream that I had since I was in probably eighth grade and I Published that last year, which was so fun. It launched almost exactly a year ago last September and That has it became an Amazon bestseller.

It was great. So that is still there, which I love and I also created Um, in person retreats. So last year I hosted my first in person retreat and this year we’re going to [00:26:00] host the second annual in person retreat in October. And I’m just thrilled with all of it. I just love, I love it. I love all of it. And I love my podcast.

I think that’s one of the things that I love so much. I do it every week. I love that. I get to do that for all of the, you know, hundreds of listeners that listen every week and just makes me so excited to get on every weekend, talk to them. 

[00:26:24] Jamie Berman: Yes. And then what about, because I always like to think because you were willing to take a leap of faith and work on your relationship with money in a way that you were able to start creating money.

What are some of the fun things that you’ve been able to manifest as a fact of, of. Making money in your business. 

[00:26:44] Jolene Winn: Okay, that has been fun and a lot of work because my brain around money It’s like still a hot mess. I feel like most of the time but last year I was able to buy a car which I mean guys it wasn’t like a brand new car [00:27:00] and it was my fault that I needed a new car because I totaled my car and it was my fault and I wasn’t hurt and we were fine, but I did have to buy myself a new car, but I was able to, I bought myself my own car and I also paid for the down payment of building a house.

And this was brand new. Like I have been a stay at home mom for the last 12 years. And so this was, I’ve just been very used to my husband being the one that makes the money. And so it was a huge shift. In our marriage and our relationship in my mental space to start contributing financially in a big, responsible way, not in a heavy way, but in a way that’s like, yeah, we can do this.

And part of it is because of what I’ve created in my business, like, because I have a business, because I’m successful, then I was the one that was enabled us to build a house. Which we moved into this year and I’ve now like [00:28:00] as of just a couple weeks ago, my husband dropped one of the days that he works and so now he only works three days a week and he’s home with us the other two days and that’s just like a lifestyle that I’ve been dreaming of forever.

And as of this week, we’re signing a contract to put in a pool and that’s all coming from me, which is so fun. It’s fun. Okay. It’s like, honestly, a little nerve wracking. Like, let’s be for right. Like I’ll be for real. It’s a little nerve wracking to suddenly have. a responsibility financially that I didn’t have before, but it’s also so exciting to be able to see that I have been able to create the life, the exact life that I want.

And I’m seeing it manifested like right now. I’m like, I just look around. I talked to my husband about this yesterday. I sat there in my kitchen and I said, I have the marriage that I want. I have the lifestyle that I want. I have the house and the, the, you know, we’re getting the pool because I want my [00:29:00] kids to enjoy that.

And it’s just all a dream come true. And I’m learning how to take responsibility for contributing to that and making it happen. 

[00:29:09] Jamie Berman: Yes. And also like. There’s no way you could make this happen if you have not had a massive shift in terms of your relationship with money. So it’s like you couldn’t have a crappy relationship with money and be creating this life.

So I think you need to give yourself a little more credit. I mean, I do for sure. Right? Like it’s always evolving. I’m always working on my relationship with money. But because it’s always evolving, it doesn’t mean you haven’t come. So far. And I’ve seen that Jolene,

[00:29:44] Jolene Winn: like you just sharing these things, right? Yeah. So far. I mean, I used to feel guilty anytime I bought groceries. Like I had nothing even fun or fancy just like I had such a relationship with money. I felt I was very irresponsible with it I felt guilty anytime I spent it And [00:30:00] anytime my husband and I talked about money I would shut down and he would get frustrated and that would be where it ended and it was just Terrible like money was just something I just avoided Thinking about or talking about because it brought up so many emotions.

It brought up so many insecurities for me and working through that and shifting that. I mean, still, still evolving, but shifting that so much is what has enabled me to really come at it with much, with a lot more abundance, right? Because when we have that scarce mentality about it, which is why I felt guilty buying groceries, then.

It limits where you can grow with it because you’re again, it’s that graspy, needy, not expansive energy. 

[00:30:47] Jamie Berman: 100 percent totally. And just hearing where you’re at now, like all together at once, it’s just like bringing tears to my eyes because I just remember when we started and it [00:31:00] like, this is what’s so inspiring for all the listeners who are maybe where Jolene was whenever she started.

It’s like, I just remember whenever we would have conversations when we started coaching and you’re like, What? I can make 100, 000. There’s no way. You’re like, you thought I was just crazy for like, you know, like, let’s go. Let’s do it. Like you were like, Jamie, how, how, how, how, like how you just couldn’t even grasp it.

And look at this. Look at what you’ve created. It’s incredible. I’m just so proud of you. 

[00:31:34] Jolene Winn: I think that there’s something really powerful. I think I’m just like totally everyone on this podcast should work with Jamie because I, that was one of the things that I think, and I always come back to that. I think the, one of the biggest things that has been so helpful.

is when you’re trying to hold that belief for yourself. Again, you’re trying to hold belief that something is possible, but you’ve never done it before. And your brain just wants evidence and [00:32:00] proof and validation first. And holding that belief can be so hard because all of your self doubts come up, all of your fears and your insecurities and everything that you’ve been carrying around forever.

It’s all there. And one of the things that has helped me the most is having you hold belief for me. Right? Because you don’t have my self doubts and my insecurities and all of those things and you’re like, Oh, I can totally see it because you’re not blinded by all the insecurity and fear. I am right. And so you holding space to believe that for me is so powerful on moments where I can’t believe that or I’m finding it hard to believe that for myself.

Knowing that you believe it is actually super helpful in ending up creating it because even just having someone else hold the energetic space for, okay, but even if I don’t believe it’s possible right now, Jamie does. And what if she’s right and let me have her like allow that and it just [00:33:00] opens up so much more belief and Just progresses you so much faster.

[00:33:07] Jamie Berman: Yes Yes, that’s the power of a coach right like right because I can see it I’m like, come on Jolene like come I just don’t let you get away with it Any of the limitations that your brain wants to offer you. I just, I’m not available for it. Right. I’m not going to let you be available for it. So yeah, it’s just absolutely amazing.

And I’m just, yes, I’m thrilled for you, Jolene. It’s so fun. So what’s next? 300k? 

[00:33:38] Jolene Winn: 300k. That’s the next goal. As you like, so in, you know, I’ve been in a mastermind. And in the mastermind, spoiler alert, there’s like something that she wants us to work on. Okay, like a project. Okay. So my project for the last mastermind has been to become an energetic match for 300 K.[00:34:00] 

And that’s what I’ve been working on. And that has been something that I’ve really felt a big shift this week. We’ve coached on it. And believing that it’s possible holding that space. And again, going back to why I’m even doing this in the first place, which isn’t for me and doing it for my clients and 300 K is the next step.

And it’s going to happen. It’s done. I don’t know how, I don’t know exactly when it’s happening, but it’s happening. And when I allow myself to believe that. And I let go of all of the attachment to it, of needing to have it, of wanting it to happen faster. That’s 

[00:34:35] Jamie Berman: when it’s going to happen. Heck yeah. And we’ll have you on the podcast again and talk about the 300K.

There it is. It’ll be great. Yes. So I am sure there are listeners who could benefit from the work that you’re doing. And maybe it’s a woman who has a partner who. struggles with porn addiction, right? So where can people find you? [00:35:00] Share all the ways. All the 

[00:35:01] Jolene Winn: ways. Well, I do host a weekly podcast. It’s called The Porn Addict’s Wife.

You can find it on Apple, iTunes, wherever you listen to podcasts. I also have an Instagram. You can follow me at JoleneWinCoaching. And I have a website, JoleneWin. com, and you can go there and find all the ways to work with me, how to join my program, free classes, all the things. I would love to help everybody.

[00:35:25] Jamie Berman: Go follow her just be in her energy. It’s the best and we will link all of that along with your book and all the Amazing things that you have created So if anyone wants to you know, come get some help they can go find those in the show notes Jolene, thank you so much for being here for sharing your story for sharing like all of these I’m so for the listeners.

I know it’ll be so inspiring for the listeners. I so appreciate 

[00:35:55] Jolene Winn: you. Thank you so much for all your work, Jamie. This has been [00:36:00] really, I feel like, a tribute to you. I’ll just, I’m gonna end this, because I have to share this story. Okay, so, I have been working with you. I started when you were doing one on one.

I joined your first group. I joined the Mastermind. I’m in the Mastermind again. And… When I joined this last time, here’s, here’s what happens is I think that I, I’m like, Oh, I think I got this. And then I stopped working with you. And then I go back, my brain does all the same things it was doing before the same patterns.

It keeps going back. And I’m like, why is my brain a hot mess? And then you started your mastermind again. And I told my husband, I was like, I think I need to hire Jamie again. And he was like, yes. And I said, do you want to know how much it is? He’s like, it doesn’t matter. Yes. Your brain needs some help. And I was like, yes.

And I just have to keep coming back to you because you are so good for me in making sure that I get out of doing and the how and brings back. And so I feel like. I almost feel like all my results, I’m taking responsibility for my results, Jamie, but you should take responsibility and like credit for my brain because you [00:37:00] are the one that has helped me keep my brain in this place where I can get the results.

So yeah, I’ve created a lot, but I. Think you should 

[00:37:09] Jamie Berman: take some credit. I’ll I’ll take credit for supporting you along the journey. Okay I will I will I love it. Thank you. Jolene. You’re the best Thank you. All right 300k, let’s go Here we go. All right. Bye everyone